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[ramAnag]

No sunshine it doesn't on paper. Professional standards and all that. Yet he wasn't restrained was he? He had laid out 2 pathetic women coppers and assaulted the copper from behind who tasered him. He was still a loose cannon and the coppers red mist kicked in to make sure he didn't get up.

So please, explain to me, after the original video was released, that made the copper look like a thug and all the left Mp's and racial activists came out screaming racism to hang/draw and quarter him?
Then, (via a newspaper) a video showing it from a different angle comes out, showing these two to be the vicious thugs they are.
Actually, its people like you who are the problem RA. Scared to call out foul play what it happens, in case it upsets a few folks.
Because they were muslim, everyone assumed it was the police at fault, yet (and there is more to come) actually shows the police have shown great restraint here. Any other airport would have shot them.

Just for you as well, seeing as you have never been in a situation, so frightening. So pumped up and dangerous, his reaction was completely natural. he and his collegues were fighting for their lives and lucky not to have lost a firearm to one of them. you really are pathetic at times. It isn't a school figh, where detention and lines are the order of the day.
Grow up and accept that folks that start serious trouble can expect serious retribution.
Then to go on tv claiming they were the victims was laughable.

But the race card, is as good as a get out of jail card.
The government and ther police are **** scared of it as well.

Tricky…you really have no idea. I wouldn’t actually ever begin to compare what we know of what happened with a ‘school fight’.
Having said that I have, in the past, had to ‘disarm’ te enage pupils of items including a house brick, knives, screwdrivers and a bicycle chain and sustained injuries which the police advised me to prosecute over, saying they would have had it happened to one of them. I didn’t…it wouldn’t have achieved anything. Oh…and I never once gave ‘lines out’ during my 30+ years of teaching.

Other than that you’re just wrong…it isn’t ‘people like me’ who are the ‘problem’…it’s those, like you, who seek to make political capital out of any incident which involves any sort of racial factor who are the ‘problem’, as you refer to it.

As regards Andy’s infinitely more sensible and respectfully made point…we will indeed have to disagree, AF. My ‘heart’ agrees with your every word…however my ‘head’ tells me that it is invariably unforgivable for someone to kick another person in the head and always wrong when it is a law enforcement officer. Two wrongs seldom make a ‘right’ and if the police are allowed to create injuries which are likely to lead to brain damage in such circumstances…then we are further along the ‘road to ruin’ than I imagined.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Hmmm, whilst I wholeheartedly agree that police actions should be proportionate, I can sympathise with the retaliatory action taken against the perp who commenced the assault. Whilst the rules demand no reaction, its hard not to sympathise with the copper in question - and equally hard to sympthise with the person owning the head.

On a lighter note I just tried to upload an image but it seems you can no longer upload a file from your computer, you can only add pic via its URL? is this so or is it just me

[ramAnag]

Hmmm, whilst I wholeheartedly agree that police actions should be proportionate, I can sympathise with the retaliatory action taken against the perp who commenced the assault. Whilst the rules demand no reaction, it’s hard not to sympathise with the copper in question - and equally hard to sympthise with the person owning the head.

…and as I said, GP…I almost certainly agree with you, but sometimes we have to look beyond our more basic and most revengeful instincts…and those in authority certainly do.

[Andy_Faber]

…and as I said, GP…I almost certainly agree with you, but sometimes we have to look beyond our more basic and most revengeful instincts…and those in authority certainly do.

I’ll be very interested to see if the two issues are prosecuted equitably. Cynical me suggests ‘community cohesion’ might play a part

[swaledale]

I’ll be very interested to see if the two issues are prosecuted equitably. Cynical me suggests ‘community cohesion’ might play a part

If the reaction of a professionally trained armed Police officer to an incident and certainly given the person he kicked had been tasered, doesn't fill people with concern, then they have clearly forgotten the actions by other individuals who were fire arms officers which resulted in the rape and death of one woman and multiple rapes, coercive behaviour of other women.

Still its good to see Thicky demonstrating the depth of his misogynism with his "pathetic women police officers" comment, merely confirms that he is a very sad and rather nasty individual as previously stated.

[Andy_Faber]

If the reaction of a professionally trained armed Police officer to an incident and certainly given the person he kicked had been tasered, doesn't fill people with concern, then they have clearly forgotten the actions by other individuals who were fire arms officers which resulted in the rape and death of one woman and multiple rapes, coercive behaviour of other women.

Still its good to see Thicky demonstrating the depth of his misogynism with his "pathetic women police officers" comment, merely confirms that he is a very sad and rather nasty individual as previously stated.

TTR’s words were I’ll chosen but I’d suggest that in view of what I understand to be the buildup to the incident and what police may have known about the perps, deploying female officers may have been a mistake.

[MadAmster]

On a lighter note I just tried to upload an image but it seems you can no longer upload a file from your computer, you can only add pic via its URL? is this so or is it just me

Something I have mentioned on several occasions. AF has reported it to HQ but these things seem to take a long time. I've also had URLs that wont load as an image so I've merely posted the url without using the IMG button meaning folk have to click on the url rather than the image simply appearing in the post.

[ramAnag]

TTR’s words were I’ll chosen but I’d suggest that in view of what I understand to be the buildup to the incident and what police may have known about the perps, deploying female officers may have been a mistake.

I suspect in your, well intentioned and understandable if somewhat old fashioned, desire to ‘defend’ the female officers concerned you are overlooking the fact that modern well trained female police and prison officers are more than capable of handling the majority of men nowadays…but then I certainly don’t know what may have been known about the ‘perps’.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think in these days of gender equality, female police officers are fair game for being smacked - so to me it doesnt matter the gender (or self identified gender etc etc) of the person assaulted. However had the person being smacked been Trans - in one way or another - Im sure the woke bleating about police retribution would have been caught between two stools of doubt as to who to defend

[Andy_Faber]

I suspect in your, well intentioned and understandable if somewhat old fashioned, desire to ‘defend’ the female officers concerned you are overlooking the fact that modern well trained female police and prison officers are more than capable of handling the majority of men nowadays…but then I certainly don’t know what may have been known about the ‘perps’.

It’s not old fashioned, it’s personal choice, clearly you don’t value the fairer *** as highly as I or anyone I know do.

Your point about training is a poor one in any case, any female policewoman as highly trained as any male policeman will still (with minimal exceptions) lack muscle mass