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  1. #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by UbiqueLUFC33 View Post
    This is a ****ing travesty. Those useless ****s who profess to be in charge should be utterly ashamed but if course they won't be. Once again we have been sold down the river. Why not just sell Ampadu, Gnonto, Struijk and Gruev for peanuts and have done with it?
    Careful what you wish for, it might come true.

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    I don’t see what their objective is, apart from send us down to league one, if so they’re superb at that, no word from the chairman or anyone, just send farke out to face the press etc and hide behind him…..gutless pathetic wimps

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    Quote Originally Posted by norfolk white View Post
    I don’t see what their objective is, apart from send us down to league one, if so they’re superb at that, no word from the chairman or anyone, just send farke out to face the press etc and hide behind him…..gutless pathetic wimps
    What is their objective? Suspect it's more a question, of "What were their objectives and what are they now?"

    Lets not forget that LUFC is owned by the INVESTMENT arm of the 49-ers. Investors in general have a variable record of success, and an equally variable view of their expectation of a return on their investment. Some are in it for the long haul (George Zoros-types), others to inflate their bank balance ASAP (the typical Wall Street bull).

    Whatever persuaded 49-ers Enterprises to get into bed with Radrizzani, their expectations of years of PL-type revenues were rapidly expunged and they were left with a Championship club with the relevant revenue expectations. Objectives were probably looked at again, and modified. Long termism was foresaken for the aim of;

    1. Realising/liquidating assets that could be so treated i.e players

    2. Minimising expenditure in order to retain as much value from the asset stripping as possible (e.g. no spending on ground improvements etc)

    3. Working to maximise non-match related revenue (given that ticket prices are some of the highest in the league and home and away attendances can't be much higher without huge investment in ER ground improvements, generating more cash from the supporters at games would be a big ask), via sponsorship, etc.

    4. Prepare the ground for a sale of the club, including the remaining fixed assets which require major investment to produce fit-for-purpose facilities and services. Engaging with organisation(s) that see LUFC as a long-term investment because they know what they are doing and can see the value-add they can generate over an extended period of time (developing LUFC as a feeder club and (possibly) as a club that could be taken back to the PL). Such organisations wouldn't be too concerned about the loss of players at this time, the world turns and what goes around comes around.

    So outlandish?

  4. #224
    Nonsense - the quickest way to lose the value of their investment and not make any decent ROI is to liquidate the assets and run the club down.

    They might eventually spin the club but only once they have returned it to the premier league no doubt uograded the stadium and then made a significant profit.

    The fact that they may sell one day is not incompatible with the club also wanting to be successful and invest.

    Until the window is closed no point speculating.

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    Seems others see the possibility of asset stripping being the new objective;

    https://motforum.com/article.php?page=46858

    One of the comments;

    "Re: The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 16th August) Leeds set to lose out on Rowe
    Post by Sean_Nile » Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:10 am

    Venture capital firms (VCs) are on the lookout for clubs with high growth potential. They provide not only capital but also strategic guidance, networking opportunities, like the recent involvement of Red Bull. However, there are concerns and instances where the practices of some venture capital firms might resemble asset stripping.

    Asset stripping refers to the practice of buying a club, selling off its valuable assets, and then leaving the remaining parts of the club to decline. This often results in significant financial gain for the investors but can be detrimental to the club's long-term viability.

    VCs often gain significant control over the clubs they invest in, including board seats and decision-making power. This control can be used to push for asset sales. Release clauses in contracts.

    VCs may pressure club founders and executives to sell players to quickly recoup their investment. A quick profit of over 100 million in one year is not to be sniffed at... and really we did it because of FFP, whatever that silly little law means... sheesh those Brits what do they know about business anyway?

    Venture capital firms might prioritize short-term returns over long-term growth, leading to decisions that maximize immediate gains at the expense of the club's future. You ain't seen nothing yet... you think the sale of Archie, Cry, Glen, and Geo were bad wait to see what is coming next... surprise surprise.

    It's the s**t that happens to you when you least expect it that holds you back."

    Kind of what I said, but maybe more eloquent.

    It's not nonsense it just doesn't align with certain views. Actions speak louder than words, and just what action-based evidence do we have that 49-ers Enterprises are committed to long-term investment, rather than pocketing the £100m+ generated so far this TW and then selling the club and it's fixed assets (ER, Thorpe Arch etc. which they still own, let's not forget), probably for as much as they paid Radrizzani and running for the hills?
    Last edited by WTF11; 16-08-2024 at 09:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norfolk white View Post
    I don’t see what their objective is, apart from send us down to league one, if so they’re superb at that, no word from the chairman or anyone, just send farke out to face the press etc and hide behind him…..gutless pathetic wimps
    If we don't go up this season norfolk , and lets be honest as things stand we won't be anywhere near it , then you can be assured the 25/26 season will see the exodus of the likes of Ampadu/Rodon/James/Gnonto (if he doesn't go this season)/Struijk/Joseph.

    League 1 on the cards in the near future.

    Fans have been proper , proper shafted .

    What a mess!

  7. #227
    Steady on - galling as it is to lose Gray and Rutter and a bit less to lose Summerville there is still a way to go before the window closes.

    Farke has publically said this week he wants a full back, midfielder and 2 attacking players to come in.

    It’s being spoken as if we wanted to sell Rutter by all accounts we turned down two bids could r turn down the third due to the clause but offered a new contract to him matching whatever Brighton were offering. That does not smack of selling off the best players.

    We have also signed Rodon and Bogle who was good at this level.

    We have the Rutter, Kamara, Summerville and Red Bull money so at least give the club a chance to the end of the window.

    There was similar doom and gloom from some quarters last year but we brought in Rodon, Darlow Gruev, Kamara and Byram and finished third.

    It’s not ideal but the world hasn’t stopped turning round yet.

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    Just feeling totally let down by it all hopey.
    Should have gone up last season and blew it.
    And now our best players have been sold.

    Hardly a surprise the majority of the fan base is pissed off mate

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    So the 49ers have around 2 weeks to get some quality players in.

    We'll see.....

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    And for that reason I won't be making the same rash statements as others on here until it is done and dusted! Who knows what may happen? If nothing...then we can lay into them! 😉

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