O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Lullapie]

Your first statement is contradicted by the second, highlighted line with which I agree. Without a welfare state, we'd have miles of 'tent Cities' like we see in America, even in affluent Cities.

I think benefits should be removed from those whose incapacity is brought about by drug abuse or alcohol dependence however, there are myriad circumstances, almost endless combinations of factors in each, individual case so it's difficult to craft a 'one size fits all'.

Thank goodness for the two child limit on child benefit which some Liberals want to overturn or hundreds of millions more would be going to immigrant families who have twice as many kids on average as the Brits do.

The tent cities aren't caused by the US welfare system. They are caused by the opioid and Fentanyl epidemic. I was in San Francisco, New Jersey and New York last year. Vast areas of many US cities are like scenes from a zombie film - that has nothing to do with state funded benefits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWBzxr3c29s

The Welfare State is a means of living for many - that is what I am against.