O/T:- It's all Greek to me

[Med Pie]

This is not quite the rational defence you think it is.

I wasn't aware that I needed a defence?

[SwalePie]

I wasn't aware that I needed a defence?

Wasn't that Luke Williams' line?

[northpie1862]

In your rush to attack anything British, I suspect that you haven't even read the other post because I have not said 'British jobs for British people' anywhere in that thread nor have I suggested it so toddle along now, there's a good GenZ

Elgin was granted permission to remove the sculptures with certain conditions attached, he then sold them to the UK government who now own them so it will be a government decision to repatriate them unless ownership was transferred along with the marbles.

Using terms like Gen Z, a yearning for days where Britain was like it used to be, bedwetting over inanimate objects that you read about in the Daily Mail - i think you?ve nearly got a full house in GB news bingo.

Glad you?ve rightly been embarrassed by subsequent posters for some of the nonsense you?ve been talking in this thread. Astronomical headloss from you.

[northpie1862]

In your rush to attack anything British, I suspect that you haven't even read the other post because I have not said 'British jobs for British people' anywhere in that thread nor have I suggested it so toddle along now, there's a good GenZ

Elgin was granted permission to remove the sculptures with certain conditions attached, he then sold them to the UK government who now own them so it will be a government decision to repatriate them unless ownership was transferred along with the marbles.

I think someone needs to find your marbles.

[Med Pie]

I think someone needs to find your marbles.

I doubt you were ever issued any.

[lunaspie]

That may be so but they are not really ours to keep.

Or the Ottoman Turks' to sell.

[i961pie]

That depends if you still equate colonialism with being British? The 'Commonwealth' is a bit of an embarrassment, especially when we are forced to see African countries celebrate the British Royal family on TV. What we did to some of those countries was horrific and should not be celebrated.

Give them their stuff back.

I agree let's scrap the commonwealth it might save us billions of pounds in the long run.

[ThePieWhoCameIn]

Wasn't that Luke Williams' line?

😂 I hereby declare you the winner of the internet for today 👏

[Mark_Ross]

I think the marbles should be given back to Greece as a gesture of goodwill. Perhaps they'll then give us something in a likewise gesture. We are supposed to be friends after all, & this is a sore point between us.

Regarding the history of colonisation generally:
Well, it was totally horrific. I suppose we gave the colonies three useful things: railways, the English language, and most importantly - cricket. In return they got centuries of slavery, relentless oppression, and ruthless asset stripping. I do not think we can ever really consider the idea of reparations because (1) they were different ages with different moral zeitgeists (2) the cost would be astronomical or beyond computation.

[SmiffyPie]

I think the marbles should be given back to Greece as a gesture of goodwill. Perhaps they'll then give us something in a likewise gesture. We are supposed to be friends after all, & this is a sore point between us.

Regarding the history of colonisation generally:
Well, it was totally horrific. I suppose we gave the colonies three useful things: railways, the English language, and most importantly - cricket. In return they got centuries of slavery, relentless oppression, and ruthless asset stripping. I do not think we can ever really consider the idea of reparations because (1) they were different ages with different moral zeitgeists (2) the cost would be astronomical or beyond computation.

Them Romans and Normandy people have a lot to answer for!!