How many times do you put these players in and continue to drop important points ( often where you cannot then make the points back up) before you say enough is enough, meslier is not a youth graduate but is still fairly young, however he alone has cost us approximately 8 points alone this season, that will tell come the end, Joseph,however many times farke gives him a chance just doesn?t take it, many clammer for his inclusion but it doesn?t work, bring piroe on and he either scores or sets up goals, I get your point about giving youth a chance but at what cost??promotion and another sacked manager?