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Recent years have shown the truth that we have a poor quality set of MP's, of most persuasions. Boris is a flaky chancer and couldn't bring together a team worthy of the name to negotiate an effective exit deal.
On this, we are in complete agreement.
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The first step should always have been to get out of the control pf the ECJ and it's appendage the ECHR both worthwhile when set in place in the 1950's but currently not fit for purpose other than to allow lawyers to line their pockets and prop up both the UK and EC establishments.
I can see the merits of this but it's never a case of being able to pick and choose the bits you want and discard the bits you don't. The whole relationship was far too complex and interrelated - the biggest lie on Brexit was how easy the exit process was going to be.

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Freedom to do what you want is worth the price of getting away from EU and UK establishment controls.
Well, what freedom actually means is another 30 page thread. One person's freedom is another person's anarchy. There are places on the earth with little or no state control, but they're not usually places you'd want to live.