Quote Originally Posted by John2 View Post
Russia is a dictatorship that murders its political opposition and invades soverign countries. It's quite shocking ho succesful their misinformation campaign has been against some on here.

Obviously the preference would be that Putin immediately withdraws his troops from Ukraine and that the war ends.

Everyone agrees we want the war to end, frog acts like its some sort of righteous position.

Militaries exist because some countries want to expand by force at a huge cost to human life. Some militaries exist to expand, some exist to fight against those expansionists.

Our country had a pretty bad history of expansion, but also in the world wars a pretty good policy of fighting exainst the brutal expansionists.

Europe has been much more prosperous and succesful since we went such a long period without war. The reason was because WW2 wa so brutal and involved so much loss we collectively agreed it war is a terrible idea.

If Russia were to end the war on favourable terms, they will adopt the attitude that war is succesful, and Ukraine will be the first of many.

Appeasemant doesn't work.

You brainwashed lot on here might be willing to simplify it as "let's just give Russia what it wants and stop everything". But Russian victory substantially increases the risk that your grandkids generation will end up dead in a much bigger war instead. That's the reality. The bigger picture is more complicated than some of the minds here can comprehend.
Who has said to give Russia what they want?

It will come down to negotiation John. " frog acts like its some sort of righteous position." Kinell what is wrong in not wanting this to contiue whan there is a chance for it to stop?

You seem like you want to take control of Russia and destroy it! It is exactly what you presume Russia wants to do for the Ukraine.