Quote Originally Posted by M0ufMk3 View Post
Interesting and measured. I was waiting for the bit when somebody (in this case Turnbull) called out China as essentially, the potential victor in Trump's posturing. They've always struck me as having a long term plan, which contrasts with Putin's plan being no longer term than the opportunity to get his shirt off. And they're already looking to undercut the US in AI and it'll be interesting to see the reaction within the US if DJT tariffs US businesses out of getting good value (albeit at the expense of its own AI industry).

Interesting times and challenging.
Personally I find them frightening times.

Perhaps Europe should kick the Yanks out of all the military bases and I hope they have been charged in full for the support provided in the USA's Iraq wars and backing for other wars that America seemed keen to involve themselves in since the end of WWII.

I doubt that Europe could do much to stop an American/Russian land grab but the rest of the Western world surely could make things uncomfortable for Trump if they got their act together. And it seems that even with good access to facts that the gullible can be led by propaganda and misinformation (well done Musk).