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In my opinion anyone with any sense would not build a 12,500 seat football stadium on a land locked site with the main access to the stadium car parks from the dual carriageway A90 trunk road from Glasgow and Edinburgh to Aberdeen.

And yet anyone with even a modicum of common sense can see that right on a major trunk road where traffic can access and egress quickly and efficiently without having to encounter traffic lights, roundabouts, housing schemes, pedestrians etc. on their way to the nearest major trunk road is exactly the right place for such a thing.

I'm sure Police Scotland will have been fully consulted on the latest traffic management plan and doubt it would have been submitted should they have proclaimed major misgivings.

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And yet anyone with even a modicum of common sense can see that right on a major trunk road where traffic can access and egress quickly and efficiently without having to encounter traffic lights, roundabouts, housing schemes, pedestrians etc. on their way to the nearest major trunk road is exactly the right place for such a thing.

I'm sure Police Scotland will have been fully consulted on the latest traffic management plan and doubt it would have been submitted should they have proclaimed major misgivings.

Bob Hynd told us back in 2018 that the Scottish Government rules for vehicles exiting from a car park onto the slip road to a flyover have been changed and vehicles were now no longer permitted to exit a car park directly onto a slip road to a flyover.
Bob said that the exit road for vehicles leaving the Kingsway West retail park onto the slip road to the Crematorium roundabout would have been banned.

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Bob Hynd told us back in 2018 that the Scottish Government rules for vehicles exiting from a car park onto the slip road to a flyover have been changed and vehicles were now no longer permitted to exit a car park directly onto a slip road to a flyover.
Bob said that the exit road for vehicles leaving the Kingsway West retail park onto the slip road to the Crematorium roundabout would have been banned.

I'm fully aware of the revised slip road access regulation which is probably a well enough intentioned one. Seems overkill to me but what do I know? However, what I can't see is where the plans submitted for entry / egress to / from the site is on a slip road so your point is moot.

If the regulation had been revised prior to approval for the construction of Kingsway / McAlpine Road, Clepington Road and Kings Cross Road flyover then no doubt it wouldn't have been allowed (banned is the wrong word please do better research) and a re-design required.

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[QUOTE=Deeranged;40689824]I'm fully aware of the revised slip road access regulation which is probably a well enough intentioned one. Seems overkill to me but what do I know? However, what I can't see is where the plans submitted for entry / egress to / from the site is on a slip road so your point is moot.

If the regulation had been revised prior to approval for the construction of Kingsway / McAlpine Road, Clepington Road and Kings Cross Road flyover then no doubt it wouldn't have been allowed (banned is the wrong word please do better research) and a re-design required.[/QUOTE
The original plan in September 2017 was to use the previous entrance and exit road from the NCR Camperdown factory as the entrance and exit road from the new stadium car parks.
If you look at the plans for the new stadium development at Campy Nou published in December 2023 by Nelms’s latest firm of architects which showed a Computer Aided Design you will see they have shown both the entrance road from the A90 Kingsway to the new stadium car parks and a separate exit road from the new stadium car parks back onto the A90 Kingsway in breach of the laid down Scottish Government and Transport Scotland rules.

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I'm fully aware of the revised slip road access regulation which is probably a well enough intentioned one. Seems overkill to me but what do I know? However, what I can't see is where the plans submitted for entry / egress to / from the site is on a slip road so your point is moot.

If the regulation had been revised prior to approval for the construction of Kingsway / McAlpine Road, Clepington Road and Kings Cross Road flyover then no doubt it wouldn't have been allowed (banned is the wrong word please do better research) and a re-design required.[/QUOTE
The original plan in September 2017 was to use the previous entrance and exit road from the NCR Camperdown factory as the entrance and exit road from the new stadium car parks.
If you look at the plans for the new stadium development at Campy Nou published in December 2023 by Nelms’s latest firm of architects which showed a Computer Aided Design you will see they have shown both the entrance road from the A90 Kingsway to the new stadium car parks and a separate exit road from the new stadium car parks back onto the A90 Kingsway in breach of the laid down Scottish Government and Transport Scotland rules.

I looked at the plan issued most recently and it shows nothing of the sort.

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I looked at the plan issued most recently and it shows nothing of the sort.

I saw the plans in Bob Hynd’s office in 2018 and it showed that Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited were planning to use the same original access and exit road for the NCR Camperdown factory for the new stadium development car parks at Campy Nou.
There was nothing in the original 2017 plans about using the back door access road for the NCR Camperdown factory to access the new stadium development car parks.

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I saw the plans in Bob Hynd’s office in 2018 and it showed that Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited were planning to use the same original access and exit road for the NCR Camperdown factory for the new stadium development car parks at Campy Nou.
There was nothing in the original 2017 plans about using the back door access road for the NCR Camperdown factory to access the new stadium development car parks.

And it was changed to comply. There are no longer plans to access the site from an existing slip road.

What the actual f--k is wrong with you?

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And yet anyone with even a modicum of common sense can see that right on a major trunk road where traffic can access and egress quickly and efficiently without having to encounter traffic lights, roundabouts, housing schemes, pedestrians etc. on their way to the nearest major trunk road is exactly the right place for such a thing.

I'm sure Police Scotland will have been fully consulted on the latest traffic management plan and doubt it would have been submitted should they have proclaimed major misgivings.

Has the latest traffic management plan actually been submitted by Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited to Transport Scotland who are still waiting for answers to the questions they sent to Nelms last year or has this latest traffic management plan been posted on the internet by Nelms as a deflection to avoid answering the questions from Transport Scotland.