Election Year or Fear!

[MadAmster]

or, and this was on the toilet wall at Stanley White Hart, ?while you?ve been looking what I?ve put you may be pissing on your foot??

Might this intellectual piece of graffiti be why women don't like gender neutral toilet facilities... Vidi, vici, veni

[SithHappens]

There?s hate on both sides, check out how JK Rowling has been treated for instance

oh yeah agree

[ramAnag]

My wife feels uncomfortable with gender neutral toilets.

I recently went to Home Theatre in Manchester where the emphasis is on gender neutral toilets. On a day when the production was a relatively traditional Merchant of Venice - albeit with a female Shylock - the largely late middle aged audience seemed very reluctant to use the gender neutral facility leading to the smaller more traditional gender based facilities being hopelessly over subscribed.

Tbh I don’t really have a preference but believe we have to acknowledge that approximately half the population is female and that they deserve to feel safe.
Personally I don’t think that trans people are in any way synonymous with predatory behaviour, but that they are a tiny minority and, while they should be respected, the needs of the 50% should be the priority.

P.S. Not uncommon to see signs suggesting that a female/male operative might be cleaning in a toilet designed for the ‘opposite’ gender and I’ve never known this cause an issue.

[SithHappens]

I recently went to Home Theatre in Manchester where the emphasis is on gender neutral toilets. On a day when the production was a relatively traditional Merchant of Venice - albeit with a female Shylock - the largely late middle aged audience seemed very reluctant to use the gender neutral facility leading to the smaller more traditional gender based facilities being hopelessly over subscribed.

Tbh I don’t really have a preference but believe we have to acknowledge that approximately half the population is female and that they deserve to feel safe.
Personally I don’t think that trans people are in any way synonymous with predatory behaviour, but that they are a tiny minority and, while they should be respected, the needs of the 50% should be the priority.

P.S. Not uncommon to see signs suggesting that a female/male operative might be cleaning in a toilet designed for the ‘opposite’ gender and I’ve never known this cause an issue.

I don't go in women's toilets to know if men clean them lol, but no doesn't bother me if a female cleaner is in the gents.

I do still think the whole thing of pigeon holing people is so difficult.

It's a minefield and rightly or wrongly I get why Starmer was non committal when pushed about what is a woman a few years ago.

My wife would have more issue with a male identifying as a male in the toilets than a trans person.

Personally none of it offends me, if a guy who looks like Geoff Capes wants to don a dress on a weekend good luck to him.

[SithHappens]

She should be, from a hygiene POV if nothing else, blokes will be blokes esp relating to stand up processes

Yeah some men are gross.

[SithHappens]

or, and this was on the toilet wall at Stanley White Hart, ?while you?ve been looking what I?ve put you may be pissing on your foot??

Not been in there for years. Used to like it, saw Tommy Johnson in there once (the pub not the toilet lol)

[MadAmster]

My wife would have more issue with a male identifying as a male in the toilets than a trans person.

Therein lies, IMO, an issue. There's an article in the Mail Online which may or may not be accurate but it quotes NHS figures in a graph. This century there's been getting on 3000 *** change operations carried out, 97% of which were male to female. It seems there are way more trans people out there who haven't had the op. I suspect that, as with the numbers who have had the op, there's probably 97% of them males who think they are female but are still in possession of their meat and two veg. They merely "self identify" as female. IMO your wife is right on the money. Self identifiers think they are 100% trans yet they haven't "transed" physically, just in their heads.

[Andy_Faber]

There?s the inevitable protest activity building up around UK (and I?ve said before they, as do all, have a right so to do in peace), but having followed some US lines on this, I think there would be significant unrest over there if they take UK?s lead. Uni students in particular seem hard-core and entrenched in the opposite view, I must add without any rational explanation to justify their stance.

[Andy_Faber]

Who?s dragging themselves down to the local Scout Hut to vote in the ?locals?? Not sure I will but if I did it would be for the two parties who in a rare bit of chance I interacted with within 10 minutes of last week Green or Reform. Both candidates were actually from the next area along from mine so I can?t vote for them personally but both put over sensible statements of intent, the Reform guy would defo have got my vote as he?s very local (in fact he farms the field behind my house) but we?ll see.Anyone?

[ramAnag]

Who?s dragging themselves down to the local Scout Hut to vote in the ?locals?? Not sure I will but if I did it would be for the two parties who in a rare bit of chance I interacted with within 10 minutes of last week Green or Reform. Both candidates were actually from the next area along from mine so I can?t vote for them personally but both put over sensible statements of intent, the Reform guy would defo have got my vote as he?s very local (in fact he farms the field behind my house) but we?ll see.Anyone?

Thanks for the reminder. We both have postal votes, on the basis that we can never be certain we’re going to be in the country at the specified time, and they have to be in by May 1st.

There are no circumstances in which I would vote for Reform and being torn between Reform and Green seems odd seeing as they are virtual opposites.

I did meet the Tory candidate last week and we had quite a sensible chat, but I’ll be voting Labour on the basis that, despite all the bad publicity (some self inflicted via poor communication) I think they’ve had a reasonable start in enormously difficult circumstances and I know very little individual detail about any of the five actual candidates.

Aren’t all candidates ‘very local’ seeing as these are local elections? Certainly all our candidates are resident in the Derbyshire Dales.