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    [QUOTE=mygiddypant;40755202]Why do you get so irate? We lost to a goal scored in the last minute of normal time. Perhaps you belong to the school of thought that believes we should go a whole season without conceding a goal

    Focus on the issues not the posters, I am not going to enter a slanging match with you so don?t waste your time. These are text messages you cannot have any idea what my feelings or emotions are, so please do not try your wind up tactics on me. I would love to read your views about the position we are in, the way the club is run, the fact that we haven?t got a point away from home and we are looking like a team going down, with very poor leadership at all levels, what do you think about the club?

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    [QUOTE=Derbymiller;40755215]
    Quote Originally Posted by mygiddypant View Post
    Why do you get so irate? We lost to a goal scored in the last minute of normal time. Perhaps you belong to the school of thought that believes we should go a whole season without conceding a goal

    Focus on the issues not the posters, I am not going to enter a slanging match with you so don?t waste your time. These are text messages you cannot have any idea what my feelings or emotions are, so please do not try your wind up tactics on me. I would love to read your views about the position we are in, the way the club is run, the fact that we haven?t got a point away from home and we are looking like a team going down, with very poor leadership at all levels, what do you think about the club?
    Not trying to wind you up. Most of your posts are a good read, but occasionally you come across as intemperate, hence the question that you haven't answered.

    Regarding the club, what can I say that hasn't been repeated, ad nauseam, previously? It is what it is. It's run as a business, and not as an emotional plaything for supporters. If you can't connect with that concept then we are looking at the finances from different viewpoints.

    Are we looking like a team going down? You evidently think so, otherwise you wouldn''t ask the question. Do I think so? Given that are only about a quarter of the way into the season, with another transfer window to come, I think it is too early to call. The situation is clearly a concern, but with better players to return I remain optimistic that better things are to come. A couple of weeks ago Donny were being hailed as the next Man City (slight exaggeration), but since they lost three in succession they have become merely mortal like the rest (Stevenage excepted, who are, apparently managed by a demi-god).

    Poor leadership at all levels? You clearly know more than I do.

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    [QUOTE=mygiddypant;40755430]
    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post

    Not trying to wind you up. Most of your posts are a good read, but occasionally you come across as intemperate, hence the question that you haven't answered.

    Regarding the club, what can I say that hasn't been repeated, ad nauseam, previously? It is what it is. It's run as a business, and not as an emotional plaything for supporters. If you can't connect with that concept then we are looking at the finances from different viewpoints.

    Are we looking like a team going down? You evidently think so, otherwise you wouldn''t ask the question. Do I think so? Given that are only about a quarter of the way into the season, with another transfer window to come, I think it is too early to call. The situation is clearly a concern, but with better players to return I remain optimistic that better things are to come. A couple of weeks ago Donny were being hailed as the next Man City (slight exaggeration), but since they lost three in succession they have become merely mortal like the rest (Stevenage excepted, who are, apparently managed by a demi-god).

    Poor leadership at all levels? You clearly know more than I do.
    I will answer your question i am not irate, i am frustrated and annoyed, mainly because I believe that MH is stubborn and thinks his way is best, yet we lose a lot. His latest interview sums it up, with comments about: poor second half, same as all season, we are doing the best we can in difficult situations, injuries etc.

    He has already stated that the injury situation is down to bad luck (the fairies did it argument) which means he doesn't believe that there is any reason outside of the supernatural that has caused this, yet we have three players that have incurred recurring injuries because he has rushed them back into the starting line up!! Arsenal are having a bad time with injuries yet Arteta stated that they are going to fully investigate all areas to identify the cause. There are many consulting specialists that assist sporting organisations in this area, but that isn't being considered by our club, we know why money!!
    My comment on leadership is an opinion based on observations over a number of seasons, I have no contacts in the club and openly admit it is speculation and opinion. The club has few assets, teh playing staff are it's main one, yet we appear relucant to invest in specialists to help find why those assets cannot operate at a level the club needs and the ones we have that have a resale value we fail to manage their contracts, even after we have admitted that has been a problem in the past. So in my opinion that is an example of poor leadership.
    MH says "It just wasn’t good enough and I take full responsibility.” which i admire that he puts himself up as the man responsible, and for me his refusal to change his approach and keep pushing 3 CBs is not working and he needs to change it or it will result in more pressure with more defeats than necessary.

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