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Thread: The Nestor Model

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
    Totally agree with your last 2 paragraphs Al! As for Wallace, as I've said, I certainly would not start him but whilst he clearly lacks pace I still think that his experience counts for something and when brought on in recent games he has shown attacking intent.

    The crux of the issue is that in a league like the Championship you are going to have to rotate players and need a decent "shadow team" to do so effectively. Here, Mason is limited in his available options. Price is no winger and with Grant (whose energy I believe we miss) injured we really only have Wallace as a back up for Mikey or Illing Junior. Having said this, I don't disagree with you that Mason's starting selections have too often been baffling and do not show the attacking intent we would want.

    Going back to OB's point, I don't think it is the Game Model itself that is the problem, more that we lack enough players with the qualities to implement it properly or consistently. The counter argument, of course, is then not to force a game model on players who cannot match it's requirement, but rather ditch the model and play to the strengths that we do have. The issue then, is whether this would really improve performances.

    Bottom line though is that our defensive set up of Griffiths, Campbell (yes, I know he is not great going forward but I'm talking defensively), Phillips, Mepham and Taylor is pretty sound and doesn't need tampering with. It's the midfield and attackers that need sorting and whilst Mason's options here are limited, I share the frustrations of others around those he does chose to start.

    Totally agree! I also agree Wallace is decent back up but not to start which was why we now miss Fellows! Love to see Bostock get more minutes and yes he?s a kid but a bloody good one and needs more than 2 minutes. In those 2 minutes he was composed and had good feet.

    Our biggest problem apart from a clinical striker is the engine ( midfield ) as it?s too slow and lacks creativity and pace. Oh for a Pereira or Jude Bellingham which helped to get Sunderland promoted.

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    I think maybe that apart from the - Nestor Model - there is a bit of extra care, as a newbie, not to start his managerial career with a sequence of heavy defeats. (A favouring of - a safe pair of hands - preferred)
    I understand that - but do not like it.
    I?ve a feeling he will become known as a binary manager!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prando View Post
    I think maybe that apart from the - Nestor Model - there is a bit of extra care, as a newbie, not to start his managerial career with a sequence of heavy defeats. (A favouring of - a safe pair of hands - preferred)
    I understand that - but do not like it.
    I?ve a feeling he will become known as a binary manager!
    I have a feeling he will be known as a failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bordering View Post
    I have a feeling he will be known as a failure.

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    Football is a simple game complicated by ridiculous game models thought up by many who haven?t a clue, Tony Mowbray in his interview with Bernie Slaven was correct in saying there?s too much interference and meddling from people from above, just let the coach do his job, Nestor?s already got it wrong twice with Cautious Corberan and bringing back Mowbray at the wrong time, I feel the Mason tenure will end in failure

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    With the greatest of respect to Tony Mowbray, given the nature and content of most of his pre and post match interviews across both spells with us I would be highly inclined to take much of what he says with a very hefty salt mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombers right foot View Post
    Football is a simple game complicated by ridiculous game models thought up by many who haven?t a clue, Tony Mowbray in his interview with Bernie Slaven was correct in saying there?s too much interference and meddling from people from above, just let the coach do his job, Nestor?s already got it wrong twice with Cautious Corberan and bringing back Mowbray at the wrong time, I feel the Mason tenure will end in failure
    I mean its a fairly simple and logical approach though Bomber.

    Choose a way of playing > bring in a manager that wants to play that system > buy players that suit that system

    If you keep changing the manager who wants to play a different way, you have to keep replacing the players.

    Put it this way, Brighton have this simple approach, West Ham dont. Liverpool do it, United dont. It goes without saying who is doing better.

    Nestor wasnt here when Corberan was appointed (who was a cracking manager btw) but i think they would agree Mowbray was a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    I mean its a fairly simple and logical approach though Bomber.

    Choose a way of playing > bring in a manager that wants to play that system > buy players that suit that system

    If you keep changing the manager who wants to play a different way, you have to keep replacing the players.

    Put it this way, Brighton have this simple approach, West Ham dont. Liverpool do it, United dont. It goes without saying who is doing better.

    Nestor wasnt here when Corberan was appointed (who was a cracking manager btw) but i think they would agree Mowbray was a disaster.

    Corberon could not take us no further in my opinion and his style of football was like watching paint dry! Corberon started well at Valencia but now after eight games this season they are three points off the bottom. I fear Mason is following in his footsteps.

    Oh for a Coventry style of fast attacking football with plenty of goals. Surely this is not too much to ask?

    Where does Jed Wallace fit into the Nestor Model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Corberon could not take us no further in my opinion and his style of football was like watching paint dry! Corberon started well at Valencia but now after eight games this season they are three points off the bottom. I fear Mason is following in his footsteps.

    Oh for a Coventry style of fast attacking football with plenty of goals. Surely this is not too much to ask?

    Where does Jed Wallace fit into the Nestor Model?
    Again, Wallace was bought before the Nestor Model came in. So he probably wont fit in when his contract is up

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    Again, Wallace was bought before the Nestor Model came in. So he probably wont fit in when his contract is up

    Clearly he won’t Matt being the highest wage earner on 30K per week. That said a model needs to be built now and polished therefore starting Wallace and retaining his captaincy is baffling. Players like Jenkins, Bostock and Bray are the future but it takes a manager with balls to give them minutes.

    Todays game has revolved and clubs are going for an athletic with pace more and more. Our Jed can’t run and does not have quick feet. Squad player yes but starting - it’s a piss take for me!

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