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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthWestCorner View Post
    Let’s cut this “if only you knew” nonsense. If you have some knowledge share it, otherwise it’s wearing very thin.

    Fact is, he’s had a lower budget than previous managers BUT he’s still had a fairly competitive budget for this level, and certainly higher that the league table position. He’s signed some pure rubbish with that budget and he has failed to sign anything up front.

    The blame does not entirely rest with MH. TS is running this club into the floor. But the combination is damaging. I don’t know where we go from here. No point sacking the manager as anyone coming in would have the same support.
    "If you have some knowledge share it" you said.
    Would you like to share with us have the details you apparently have about the "fairly competitive budget for this level" because, as far as I'm aware, the club hasn't put them in the public domain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowmiller View Post
    "If you have some knowledge share it" you said.
    Would you like to share with us have the details you apparently have about the "fairly competitive budget for this level" because, as far as I'm aware, the club hasn't put them in the public domain?
    In posting this, I can predict your response, however both PD and MH said at the start of the season the following:

    https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.u...udget-5198629#

    It doesn?t specifically prove the point I made but it very much points to a competitive budget. Unless of course you think PW didn?t have one during his tenure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthWestCorner View Post
    In posting this, I can predict your response, however both PD and MH said at the start of the season the following:

    https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.u...udget-5198629#

    It doesn?t specifically prove the point I made but it very much points to a competitive budget. Unless of course you think PW didn?t have one during his tenure.
    I remember that article, it is clear that SE was useless and wasted the money in most cases, the TS shouldn’t give money to his mates and that MH has also made some terrible signings. The common players in those two seasons, the poor contract management and the signing of Hugill is of course RS and PD, yet they constantly avoid criticism whilst others don’t. These two will also be active making decisions in January……….good luck.

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    According to this, Rotherham are currently paying the 7th highest wages in the league, which essentially translates to the 7th highest budget (excluding fees paid for players). It won't be totally accurate but it probably gives a reasonable indication.

    (Scroll down past the bar chart to see the spend on wages)

    https://www.capology.com/uk/league-one/payrolls/

    One thing to remember is that this is WAGES and not the budget given to Hamshaw in the summer. Our manager will have inherited a lot of players on good wages from the previous regime (Hugill, Kelly, Raggett, Dawson and others) and so therefore the money available to him last summer to bring in new players may not necessarily have been the 7th highest in the league, if that makes sense.
    Last edited by Heliosphan78; 14-12-2025 at 11:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliosphan78 View Post
    According to this, Rotherham are currently paying the 7th highest wages in the league, which essentially translates to the 7th highest budget (excluding fees paid for players). It won't be totally accurate but it probably gives a reasonable indication.

    https://www.capology.com/uk/league-one/payrolls/

    One thing to remember is that this is WAGES and not the budget given to Hamshaw in the summer. Our manager will have inherited a lot of players on good wages from the previous regime (Hugill, Kelly, Raggett, Dawson and others) and so therefore the money available to him last summer to bring in new players may not necessarily have been the 7th highest in the league, if that makes sense.
    Very good point. It does look like we have some very poor management at various levels at the club, that isn’t aimed at MH as he is really a coach not a manager.

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