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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsORichSenior_ View Post
    good points Stomper but substitutions are only effective if the next mans ability is comparable to the first man..... so if there is any drop off in quality your going to have a problem..... and to be fair it takes time for a team to gel together as savvy players and as individual personalities settling into the club.

    to some degree some may say substitutions are far more impacted by squad depth than who is actually making the subs as for the most part coaches will typically select the best players they have available for a given game..... of course there may be one or two changes for specific tactical reasons, injuries and suspensions but ultimately a team like ours will put out its best available players and we all now know who and what they can offer.....
    which means with any substitution you are likely making your team worse in effect as to effectiveness coming in cold and often asked to play tactical roles out of position ...... tough call when you have to factor that in throughout a match with players on the pitch getting more tired and as you commented which are making them worse versions of themselves with a replacement bench ordinary at best in a tough pl some may say......

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    The late goals we concede are mainly down to defensive errors/switching off (fatigue) , confusion with whose marking who... our midfield blowing a gasket (as Hopey mentions Stach was clearly burnt out on at least 2 occasions).. There is nothing worse for a player coming on as a sub in the last minutes of a game, its not even contributing to any match fitness... Our poor record for conceding late was highlighted on MOTD recently... whichever way we want to argue the pros and cons... it aint working

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitestomper45 View Post
    The late goals we concede are mainly down to defensive errors/switching off (fatigue) , confusion with whose marking who... our midfield blowing a gasket (as Hopey mentions Stach was clearly burnt out on at least 2 occasions).. There is nothing worse for a player coming on as a sub in the last minutes of a game, its not even contributing to any match fitness... Our poor record for conceding late was highlighted on MOTD recently... whichever way we want to argue the pros and cons... it aint working
    Completely agree and why would any sqaud player sign for us to be faced with so few opportunities to get minutes.

    Rothwell and Tanaka were stellar for us but only got their chance through injuries to others. For the first two games they weren?t great as lack of match time meant a lack of sharpensss. Farke had to play them as there was no one else fit and then they got the rhythm and were excellent.

    I can?t believe people try to defend that as it a clear Farke weakness. That is not to say he doesn?t have strengths but those above him should be making him adapt.

    It?s football management 102 and not rocket science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopelesslyoptimistic View Post
    Completely agree and why would any sqaud player sign for us to be faced with so few opportunities to get minutes.

    Rothwell and Tanaka were stellar for us but only got their chance through injuries to others. For the first two games they weren?t great as lack of match time meant a lack of sharpensss. Farke had to play them as there was no one else fit and then they got the rhythm and were excellent.

    I can?t believe people try to defend that as it a clear Farke weakness. That is not to say he doesn?t have strengths but those above him should be making him adapt.

    It?s football management 102 and not rocket science.
    Hopey, 102 is that a reference to:
    Football Periodization to Maximise Performance: Session Design - The Training Week - Tapering Strategy - 102 Practices - Youth to Pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitestomper45 View Post
    Hopey, 102 is that a reference to:
    Football Periodization to Maximise Performance: Session Design - The Training Week - Tapering Strategy - 102 Practices - Youth to Pro
    😎 probably but was intended as a step up from 101 but not much of one 🤔😇🤣

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    Sooo, for the benefit of a layman such as myself,
    Is it the fault of the players for retreating and not adapting to the opposition pressure in the last 15 minutes,
    Or does the blame lie with someone else who can’t see what’s happening and make the appropriate adjustments/changes to alleviate the pressure from the opposition during these final minutes.
    A simple answer for a simple man will suffice.

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    Wolves who are supposedly gone, didn't lose any last minute goals v villa.

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