Matt Taylor

[Yak]

I think people are saying that he could potentially fill in until the end of the season if MH finally gets the sack.
IMO he would be a massive upgrade in our current person.
Tbf anyone probably would be.

[Old_time_miller]

I have heard some tripe talked on here, but this takes the biscuit. Anyone else want this football lunatic back?

[UlleyMiller]

Stansmate and other Taylor knockers. He endured terrible personal tragedy during his time at Bristol Rovers (given lengthy leave of absence ) and couldn’t be expected to to be focused on his job.Prospective new employers will be considerate of that dreadful period.On Sky Sports website there is an extensive interview with Taylor (Oct 13 last year) which you may like to read.

I've nothing but sympathy for his personal situation, and I'd accept that he's a very intelligent guy who is articulate and knows the game, but that changes nothing about the fact that he was awful at Rotherham and hasn't shown that he's a good L1 manager.

If there's even a sniff of a chance TS is looking at options to fill a MH void to save us from the drop, an old hand makes far more sense than Taylor. Taylor lost 5 of his first 10 when he took over with us, and did the same with Bristol. He's not a 'hit the ground running' manager.

[Yak]

I've nothing but sympathy for his personal situation, and I'd accept that he's a very intelligent guy who is articulate and knows the game, but that changes nothing about the fact that he was awful at Rotherham and hasn't shown that he's a good L1 manager.

If there's even a sniff of a chance TS is looking at options to fill a MH void to save us from the drop, an old hand makes far more sense than Taylor. Taylor lost 5 of his first 10 when he took over with us, and did the same with Bristol. He's not a 'hit the ground running' manager.

I don’t want him back it would split the fan base even further which is not difficult to do.
To say he was awful well we took on some of the big boys in the championship and at times we beat them or pushed them close.
We played some great football too.
She’d Utd away springs to mind but Burnley away was a game we really looked like we belonged in the championship.
When he was sacked we weren’t sure of going down but TS didn’t like being told some home truths and reacted to 2 bad performances and results.
Like I said I don’t want him back but as has already been said if he was awful then this one in charge must go in the diabolical, horrendous, hopeless, pathetic, category.

[UlleyMiller]

I don?’t want him back it would split the fan base even further which is not difficult to do.
To say he was awful well we took on some of the big boys in the championship and at times we beat them or pushed them close.
We played some great football too.
She?’d Utd away springs to mind but Burnley away was a game we really looked like we belonged in the championship.
When he was sacked we weren?’t sure of going down but TS didn?’t like being told some home truths and reacted to 2 bad performances and results.
Like I said I don?’t want him back but as has already been said if he was awful then this one in charge must go in the diabolical, horrendous, hopeless, pathetic, category.

We'd lost 9 of 16 that season, the win against Coventry was the sole highlight (Norwich was decent, but taking the rose-tinted glasses off, Norwich were easily better that day). Taylor was sacked because we were playing horrendously and effort was missing (losing at the pig pen was one of the worst outings I've ever seen in 40 years). The prior season we had some great outings, but a lot of credit for that sits with what Warne left (we were 8th with a game in hand which could have put us up to 4th). Taylor oversaw a steady decline that season and almost a freefall the next (left us in 22nd, shortly after signing Ayala - a personification of his time).

Hamshaw has been bad for us. There have been signs he was getting it, but he's been far too stubborn, hasn't motivated the lads, has routinely failed to make an impact with subs/half time talks, has had a middling to poor time with transfers, and if he leaves, does so with us looking at very likely relegation. But despite how poor we are now, and contrary to some comments that L1 is an "easier league" (they're all relative unless you have Cardiff, Birmingham type resources), the gulf between MT and MH is barely worth discussion. Both have been a very bad fit, and both (in their own way, and to differing extents) took us backwards.

It's time to part with one, and definitely not to bring the other back. I've said on here recently that I think there's thinking upstairs that going down isn't necessarily a bad thing and I think the current situation supports that... but if I'm wrong, it has to be a Warnock type appointment where the guy knows it's until May only, and is well compensated for L1 survival. Huge effort then behind the scenes to secure a longer term fix from May.

[Townerslovechild]

Unlike some, I've nothing personal against Taylor, he was/is a relatively inexperienced manager, and wasn't very good for us,his first season was given a massive start by the position Warne left us in.
I wish him well for the future, but if we are going to sack Hamshaw, then he isn't the answer.

[Yak]

We'd lost 9 of 16 that season, the win against Coventry was the sole highlight (Norwich was decent, but taking the rose-tinted glasses off, Norwich were easily better that day). Taylor was sacked because we were playing horrendously and effort was missing (losing at the pig pen was one of the worst outings I've ever seen in 40 years). The prior season we had some great outings, but a lot of credit for that sits with what Warne left (we were 8th with a game in hand which could have put us up to 4th). Taylor oversaw a steady decline that season and almost a freefall the next (left us in 22nd, shortly after signing Ayala - a personification of his time).

Hamshaw has been bad for us. There have been signs he was getting it, but he's been far too stubborn, hasn't motivated the lads, has routinely failed to make an impact with subs/half time talks, has had a middling to poor time with transfers, and if he leaves, does so with us looking at very likely relegation. But despite how poor we are now, and contrary to some comments that L1 is an "easier league" (they're all relative unless you have Cardiff, Birmingham type resources), the gulf between MT and MH is barely worth discussion. Both have been a very bad fit, and both (in their own way, and to differing extents) took us backwards.

It's time to part with one, and definitely not to bring the other back. I've said on here recently that I think there's thinking upstairs that going down isn't necessarily a bad thing and I think the current situation supports that... but if I'm wrong, it has to be a Warnock type appointment where the guy knows it's until May only, and is well compensated for L1 survival. Huge effort then behind the scenes to secure a longer term fix from May.

Respect your opinion Ulley but don?t agree with most of that. I think you are being incredibly harsh about Taylor and I understand he wasn?t everyone?s cup of tea.
It?s all about opinions and like I said I respect them but don?t agree not one bit.
I don?t want him back anyway so we crack on with the hopeless incompetent one.

[UlleyMiller]

Respect your opinion Ulley but don?t agree with most of that. I think you are being incredibly harsh about Taylor and I understand he wasn?t everyone?s cup of tea.
It?s all about opinions and like I said I respect them but don?t agree not one bit.
I don?t want him back anyway so we crack on with the hopeless incompetent one.

Whatever opinions people have, going back rarely works. Even King Ronnie had a hard time in his second stint (although the situation he faced was ridiculous and he actually did pretty well IMHO)... it just never really clicks.

Hopefully we'll see a change in the coming hours/days, but if we don't it means I'll possibly get to visit Holker Street and LNER Stadium for the first time. Every cloud...

[Old_time_miller]

Some of you have short memories. Taylor utterly wrecked the playing side of the club. Piddled off the medical staff, so they disappeared and the injuries started at that point. Recruitment and tactics from Jan was appalling, the treatment of woody, and finally the chairman took note.

The man should not be allowed to mange a pub team. Teams he has had end up playing like one.

What is happening now has no bearing on whether the walking football disaster turned pundit who talks at 50 miles an hour, sorry, erm, er, erm and says little of value, isn’t worthy of a thread. Whoever, should anyone of the club read this social of learned fans, be in no doubt, some of them do not speak for the majority……. He is NOT wanted. Let us not make things worse.

IF we get a break with injuries, we WILL stay up. We do not need Taylor road to real disaster.

[Derbymiller]

So Matt Taylor who was our manager three managers ago is the cause of our injury crisis..mmmmmm in the time since then have all the available support staff in football disappeared? This injury crisis is caused by a number of factors, recruiting unfit players or ones that are injury prone, poor player fitness, training and preparation facilities. Using part time staff to fill full time high importance positions, letting the manager and so called fitness guy mark their own homework and not bringing in external expertise to do a full investigation and assessment, poor treatment of injured players like walking around in the cold instead of immediately treating them, doing scans on players days after the injury, not speaking out and asking for additional help (according to Paul Douglas), and perhaps our situation and confidence isn’t helping players to be motivated to make themselves available in a timely manner. Our board including the COO have a lot to answer for when it comes to the injury crisis but so does the recruitment team and the manager. However the fact we have yet another injury crisis gives MH an excuse and those that think he will eventually turn good, perhaps he will in the same way milk turns good if it is left out of the fridge for long enough. You could put 6 players from the Man city u21 team in our team and MH would still struggle to get a result, 7 points in 14 games, repeat that and we won’t even make 40 points this season, He is one of the worst managers I have seen in charge of Rotherham, not the worst but one of the worst.