Would

[Returnofrros]

Show me a young manager who hasn’t been sacked.

He worked at and was highly thought of at a progressive club playing in arguably one of the best leagues in the world. Helping and nurturing young talent to develop into decent professionals.

Nah, let’s hate him before he starts.

One of the things that’s held our club back is the attitude of our alleged supporters.

Last paragraph.

There was apparently fans having strokes cause he dared to bring on Samuels last week.

Dee fans. 🙄

[Returnofrros]

Does that make him a good manager? Or does it make him a good mentor?

It was an appointment that, to many at the time, seemed to lack vision and seemed to verge almost on desperation. It certainly didn't come across as progressive or ambitious. Is it really any surprise that after years of relative failure some were concerned at the appointment of a manager who had failed in multiple managerial positions and who then made the much misquoted 'if you want a successful manager' statement?

You might not know this but us Dundee fans have been through the wringer most of our lives and have every right to be sceptical of anything that happens at the club.

Head coach, this season has proved decent one

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Head coach, this season has proved decent one

Head Coach / Manager / person that picks the team every week - semantics

[Returnofrros]

Head Coach / Manager / person that picks the team every week - semantics

You've nailed it

Picks the team and tactics from what's put in front of him.

He dosent have and apparently dosent want 100% control over what's put in front of him.

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You've nailed it

Picks the team and tactics from what's put in front of him.

He dosent have and apparently dosent want 100% control over what's put in front of him.

And will always be first in the fans' firing line. That's possibly part of the thinking of those above him right enough.

[noahrab]

Does that make him a good manager? Or does it make him a good mentor?

It was an appointment that, to many at the time, seemed to lack vision and seemed to verge almost on desperation. It certainly didn't come across as progressive or ambitious. Is it really any surprise that after years of relative failure some were concerned at the appointment of a manager who had failed in multiple managerial positions and who then made the much misquoted 'if you want a successful manager' statement?

You might not know this but us Dundee fans have been through the wringer most of our lives and have every right to be sceptical of anything that happens at the club.

His appointment is now seen as progressive and ambitious.

The guys who own the club make the decisions.

The ?much misquoted? was actually the truth. Only thing he?s been guilty of is being truthful.

[noahrab]

Last paragraph.

There was apparently fans having strokes cause he dared to bring on Samuels last week.

Dee fans. 🙄

Some of the worst fans going.

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His appointment is now seen as progressive and ambitious.

The guys who own the club make the decisions.

The ?much misquoted? was actually the truth. Only thing he?s been guilty of is being truthful.

Point 1 is your perception, others perceive this differently of course. Time will tell I reckon.

Point 2 you're correct, they don't have a great track record though (my perception).

Point 3 yes he told the truth, then it was twisted, spun and misquoted to make him look a bit daft.

[islaydarkblue]

Table finishing position and points total don't lie. 6th has to be better than 8th, you get more prize money for it so it's better.

We need two more wins then the two seasons' points totals will be the same, three wins or two and a draw and it's more - less than that and the points total is less. Then Of course the argument is that we had easier games this season in the bottom six. 42 points and a top six finish has to be better thn 42 points and a bottom six finish surely? However the counter to that argument is St. Mirren and Killie were also top six in 2023 /24 whilst Aberdeen and Hibs both had poor seasons. And so it goes on, Falkirk had an unusually strong season this season, Aberdeen p1sh again etc. The DAB thing just isn't even a thing for me, 12 teams in the division both seasons including Ross County in 2023/24 who have always seemed to have some kind of Indian sign over us..

In short you can't really compare. Docherty did well that season, Pressley has done well enough this season given the close season shambles. Next season is a new start, let's hope Pressley can kick on a bit. Always assuming our eternally unpredictable CEO doesn't punt him of course.

I have just come across this topic.
Judging by Pressley?s recent comments in the Courier it is possible that Pressley will resign as manager before our CEO gets a chance to sack him.

[islaydarkblue]

Dundee were NEVER in danger of finishing 12th

I disagree. Livingston had quite a good start to the 2025-26 league season whereas we had a disastrous start to the season.
If Livingston had won a few more games and we had not had a couple of wins in late December and against the Dabs at the beginning of January 2026 things could have been a lot different with us finishing 12th. .