O/T Jeremy corbyn

[animallittle3]

Many Poles who fought against the Nazis didn't go back after the war because the Soviets had taken over.

Most of the younger ones are OK but when they get on the wodka they can get a bit rowdy.

As seen on that recent Rob Lowe drama, Boston in Lincolnshire which has the highest proportion of immigrants from Poland and Eastern Europe also has the highest murder rate in England and Wales.

You should hear their views on muslims and black people .

It isn't a minority view either , even shocked me with their opinions .

Trying to explain away the current mayor of London was difficult to say the least , I'll not repeat their view but it was colourful , no pun intended .

I'd have to say I've got on with the majority of them , had one or two little robust conversations about talking in Polish when I'm the only englishman on that job but apart from that no real issues really .

They tell me there isn't a width of a fag paper between ourselves and the Germans which is something that surprised me .

Arrogance seemed to be the heart of it .

My stock reply was that was b@llax given we did conquer the world and they couldn't even manage europe .

So therefore we are far more arrogant .

They didn't disagree .

[animallittle3]

Never vote labour again until Corbyn an Abbott step aside.

The grooming scandal under a labour council only adds fuel to this.

People inside the uk want to come here an work fine, but pay into the system for a minimum of 5 years before you can claim any benefits to send home.

As for the NHS, pay in for 5 years or pay for the privilege, put a stop to the nhs tourists.

Stop being so left wing and nice Britain,the rest of the EU couldn’t give two fingers too our residents.

But that's the EU isn't it and not necessarily the Labour or Tory party .

Other than that I wouldn't disagree with your view .

[WanChaiMiller]

Seems like a huge coincidence.

Quote: "According to new Home Office figures, the most murderous place in England and Wales is the Lincolnshire town of Boston.

Two homicides and eight attempted murders were recorded in the Boston area, scaling to 15 murderous crimes for every 100,000 residents - the highest rate for any area in England and Wales.

However, Boston MP Matt Warman has described reports naming the town as the murder of Britain as ‘wildly incompetent’ and ‘playing stupid games’ with the statistics." Etc

[WanChaiMiller]

Now can we get back to the original point. Are you still saying that the Brexit party are an extreme right wing organisation? Answer as simply as I did if you could?

Sorry to jump in Shark but I think Farage is pi**ing up your back.* There is an international white populist alliance linking right wing groups in USA, Australia, Western Europe and Britain. Farage is Chair of the group of the extreme right wing parties in Western Europe. There is a video of Bannon saying Farage would be the ideal person to head up an international group linking right wing parties worldwide.

Brexit has played a central role for the movement in the UK. The country is divided - the people are split, Parliament is split, the main political parties are split. With May going, and the need to deliver Brexit for the people, it means the door is wide open for a right winger to become leader of the Cons and our next Prime Minister. Rees Moggs ERG are sitting in the wings of the Tory Party. The country is ripe for a lurch to the right and there is no serious opposition.

[Shark27]

Sorry to jump in Shark but I think Farage is pi**ing up your back.* There is an international white populist alliance linking right wing groups in USA, Australia, Western Europe and Britain. Farage is Chair of the group of the extreme right wing parties in Western Europe. There is a video of Bannon saying Farage would be the ideal person to head up an international group linking right wing parties worldwide.

Brexit has played a central role for the movement in the UK. The country is divided - the people are split, Parliament is split, the main political parties are split. With May going, and the need to deliver Brexit for the people, it means the door is wide open for a right winger to become leader of the Cons and our next Prime Minister. Rees Moggs ERG are sitting in the wings of the Tory Party. The country is ripe for a lurch to the right and there is no serious opposition.

So do you think the Brexit party are an extreme right wing organisation?

I.e the same as Hitlers Nazi party in Germany?

[WanChaiMiller]

So do you think the Brexit party are an extreme right wing organisation?

I.e the same as Hitlers Nazi party in Germany?

I see youve shifted the goal posts by adding 'the same as Hilters Nazi party'. Does that mean that I think Farage will lead the party to murder 6m jews? If so, no.

My answer is in my post above.

[Shark27]

I see youve shifted the goal posts by adding 'the same as Hilters Nazi party'. Does that mean that I think Farage will lead the party to murder 6m jews? If so, no.

My answer is in my post above.

When I went to school the Nazi party were described as extreme right wing.

If someone describes the Brexit party as extreme right wing you should now see why I am not happy about it.

[ragingpup]

Extreme right preoccupations revolve around the belief that your own country is superior in any way to others and that the presence of other nationalities or races in your own country, or intending to come to your own country, will in whatever way make your own country/race inferior. Reactive policies of the far right are to politically resist such movement into your own country and in some cases, show hostility to or demand the deportation of races that are in your own country.

The nazis were at the very extreme end of this definition but it is very much a sliding scale. Farage is absolutely of the opinion that immigration has a negative impact on the UK culture. These lines can be blurred by such arguments like the dreadful use of immigration as a low paid workforce that does not assume that other races/cultures are inferior - we get many points of view from this perspective on here that I would not consider to be far right view points. That is arguing against a form of exploitation. But when you talk about other cultures bringing in negative behaviour (blacks = violent, Eastern Europeans = murderers, foreign people denying access to NHS) you can make arguments for such things but you would be arguing, by definition, from a far right perspective.

[BigLadonOS]

Extreme right preoccupations revolve around the belief that your own country is superior in any way to others and that the presence of other nationalities or races in your own country, or intending to come to your own country, will in whatever way make your own country/race inferior. Reactive policies of the far right are to politically resist such movement into your own country and in some cases, show hostility to or demand the deportation of races that are in your own country.

The nazis were at the very extreme end of this definition but it is very much a sliding scale. Farage is absolutely of the opinion that immigration has a negative impact on the UK culture. These lines can be blurred by such arguments like the dreadful use of immigration as a low paid workforce that does not assume that other races/cultures are inferior - we get many points of view from this perspective on here that I would not consider to be far right view points. That is arguing against a form of exploitation. But when you talk about other cultures bringing in negative behaviour (blacks = violent, Eastern Europeans = murderers, foreign people denying access to NHS) you can make arguments for such things but you would be arguing, by definition, from a far right perspective.

I have no doubt that there are extreme right wing people in the Brexit party as I also have no doubt there are in any other party in the UK but you cannot call the Brexit party as extreme right wing because of a small minority of people.

[ragingpup]

I have no doubt that there are extreme right wing people in the Brexit party as I also have no doubt there are in any other party in the UK but you cannot call the Brexit party as extreme right wing because of a small minority of people.

Don't doubt that Farage is extreme right?

How about his arging that employment law should be changed to allow British employers to discriminate in favour of UK workers and against Southern and Eastern migrant workers: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ip-policy.html

On Romanians: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be,” he told LBC radio during an interview.

On Germans: Asked whether he would also object to living next to German children, he said: “You know the difference.”

On immigrants in general making him very late for a meeting: “It took me six hours and 15 minutes to get here - it should have taken three-and-a-half to four,” he said. “That has nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a country in which the population is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be.”

On 'friendly' terms for the Chinese, defending one of Ukip’s candidates, who used the word “ch**ky” to describe a Chinese person, Mr Farage said “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you're going for?" When he was told by the presented that he “honestly would not” use the slur, Mr Farage replied: “A lot would”.

Mr Farage has also previously said he felt uncomfortable when people spoke other language on a train.


So I would argue that by the general definition that I have put forward, Farage is no neo Nazi, by a long chalk, and such exaggerations aren't helpful, but for God's sake just admit that his politics are of the Far Right. Own that.