Saturdays game cancelled [re. 10.09.22]

[laddo]

Agreed, it certainly hasn't lol

Acronyms lol, emojis and hashtags#markit

[upthemaggies]

Absolutely agree they got it wrong. But if it was because of the way two teams might act, ridiculous.

Why would it reflect badly on the FA? I thought that at all games until the funeral, there is going to be a minute's silence (or applause). So what happens when Liverpool play away at Chelsea next Sunday? Unless of course it is postponed due to police resources.

Absolutely get that people have a choice, but if this story is true, the whole of football is under the control of 1 or 2 clubs. So wrong.

To clarify, it's not a story. As I said in my OP, it was a bunch of people speculating, but I happen to think it's plausible assuming -in a world cup interrupted season - that the protocol wasn't set in stone with no ifs nor butts and that there was a discussion involved between the FA, Scottish FA, government and representative of HRH.

Seeing that there was a delay in the announcement with everybody left wondering what was going to happen for around 24 hours(?), I strongly suspect the matter *was* discussed and that the most likely point of concern was some form of tribute disruption bringing shame upon the nation and the memory of the Queen just three days after her passing, with the clubs known not to respect the national anthem being the most likely candidates to cause problems.... and both said clubs scheduled to play at home.

We've become fixated on Liverpool, but Celtic are a more obvious issue.

Before anybody leaps in with any further histrionics, I'm not judging Celtic fans when I say that them being asked to observe a minute's silence for the Queen of the United Kingdom would effectively be a stone's throw away from asking the Republic of Ireland national side to show respect. History being what it is, it's not a reasonable request.

They could have postponed Celtic and Liverpool games only but that would have raised suspicion. I think they had no choice but to go all in or all out. They couldn't possibly throw those two clubs under the bus by declaring that to be the real reason so we're left speculating until they come up with some other excuse or it just blows over.

Tomorrow night will likely reveal whether or not the authorities should have had more faith in the fans to behave in a respectful manner, but all of this could be a mute point if it's a minute's applause rather than a minute's silence, the former would need a sizeable chorus of boos to drown it out and be noted.

[Magpies1959]

The reason we now have a minute's celebration at sporting events, is because football fans couldn't manage to respect a minute's silence. I always remain silent for a minute, and follow it with a few claps at the end of that time.
I understand that not everyone agrees with the monarchy, but do think they should respect other folk that do, and show their feelings if they have to, after the minutes silence.

[upthemaggies]

The reason we now have a minute's celebration at sporting events, is because football fans couldn't manage to respect a minute's silence. I always remain silent for a minute, and follow it with a few claps at the end of that time.
I understand that not everyone agrees with the monarchy, but do think they should respect other folk that do, and show their feelings if they have to, after the minutes silence.

EFL have confirmed minute's silence for their midweek games.

Liverpool had one for Hillsborough earlier this year and that was cut short after 20 seconds due to Man City supporters interrupting it. That may sway their thinking towards applause tomorrow night.

Celtic and Liverpool being blamed IS a story after all.
https://www.balls.ie/football/celtic...-blamed-523660

Matt Hughes in the Daily Mail among others has confirmed in the last 24 hours that football wasn't cancelled in Britain this weekend only because a lack of security, but because of a fear of embarrassment.

[GranthamPie]

EFL have confirmed minute's silence for their midweek games.

Liverpool had one for Hillsborough earlier this year and that was cut short after 20 seconds due to Man City supporters interrupting it. That may sway their thinking towards applause tomorrow night.

Celtic and Liverpool being blamed IS a story after all.
https://www.balls.ie/football/celtic...-blamed-523660

Matt Hughes in the Daily Mail among others has confirmed in the last 24 hours that football wasn't cancelled in Britain this weekend only because a lack of security, but because of a fear of embarrassment.

I get the Chelsea/Liverpool game being called off for either policing, resources, logistics… even embarrassment… but I don’t get the Manure/Leeds game being called off. I don’t even get why the Florist game has been called off tonight?

Horse racing, Cricket, Golf… all back to normal.

[nw6pie]

I get the Chelsea/Liverpool game being called off for either policing, resources, logistics… even embarrassment… but I don’t get the Manure/Leeds game being called off. I don’t even get why the Florist game has been called off tonight?

Horse racing, Cricket, Golf… all back to normal.

The “establishment” don’t trust the working classes to behave, and they still see football as the commoners’ game. That’s the only reason I can see why only football has been affected. You couldn’t go to watch Notts on Saturday, but you could go to the cinema - makes zero sense to me.

[magpie_mania]

The “establishment” don’t trust the working classes to behave, and they still see football as the commoners’ game. That’s the only reason I can see why only football has been affected. You couldn’t go to watch Notts on Saturday, but you could go to the cinema - makes zero sense to me.

Who is the establishment?

There was no football last weekend because the FA decreed it.

Not only football though, other sports cancelled initially but then restarted quickly. Rugby, horse racing and cricket included.

[upthemaggies]

Lengthy discussion on talkSport earlier about the spotlight falling upon Liverpool tonight, Graeme Souness pleading with the fans to show respect and the host reading out the list of ex-managers and players who have been honoured by the queen, including Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley.

An interview with Klopp was played - normally he is very forthright in telling people how they should behave and what he thinks they should do - but I felt he basically passed the buck on this one, saying that he shouldn't need to tell fans how they should conduct themselves tonight. He wasn't much interested in managing the crowd like he normally is IMHO

A few stories coming out about people being arrested for speaking their mind or displaying anti-monarchy slogans probably adds fuel to the fire and they've just had somebody on justifying this.

[GranthamPie]

I saw the reports this morning about people being arrested for shouting innocuous comments and one for someone holding up a blank piece of paper!.. puts to bed any idea we live in the free, liberal society as some suggest.

The queuing through the night to see the coffin is not showing respect… it’s ghoulish and macabre. Most of it is people (and tourist) wanting to say.. “they were there”… horrible stuff to me.

I’ll stay silent tonight… I’ll show respect but there’ll be no national anthem singing from me.

I’ll be glad when this fairground sideshow is over.

[Magpies1959]

Just an honest question, do the anti monarchists think their lives would change for the better without a royal family, and if so, why. Also would any of the aforementioned people, swap their lives for that of a royal.
Regarding Klopp, he knows if he asked the Liverpool fans to show respect at tonight's game, he would be out of a job.
I accept everyone is entitled to their opinion on the monarchy, but surely during a period of mourning, they could manage to keep those opinions to themselves.