⚽ Match Thread vs. Lincoln City 08.08.23 [EFLC R1]

[Elite_Pie]

What we could have won in Round 2 - Sheff Utd (away)

[ForeignLegion]

What we could have won in Round 2 - Sheff Utd (away)

Probably saved themselves a demoralising flogging.

[countygump]

What we could have won in Round 2 - Sheff Utd (away)

It's a good job we lost then as the thrashing they'd have handed out to us would not have helped.

[ajojones]

Great post. I’ve never heard anything like it and genuinely shocked even on here. Yes we need at least another defender, I’m 99% sure the owners believe that too, yes we need to work out the best formation for this league and LW will work that out.
We weren’t lucky get 107 points last season, doesn’t that tell people regardless of the league, the owners, management and players all know what they’re doing, yes we need to adapt, it’s one game, but a jump to league 2 not the Prem, the club will sort.

This.

[crazyfists]

The thing is no one is saying rip anything up. I said we can still play good football in this league but we need two defenders and to work out how to create chances. That's true, the defence wasn't great last season but we only played around 5 good teams in the league and against those we had mixed results. We have bad goals away all year but most glossed over it and probably forgot that it's a big step up against hungry teams.

We do need to press from the front, as we have seen in our two games so far, Sutton and Lincoln pressed us hard and won the ball back leading to goals. We do need to stop panicking when they cross the ball but we have done this for years. We also need to work out how to create chances against better defences who don't give us time on the ball. Ruben had what 16 assists last season. He's gone so where are they coming from? Nemane can't do it all. Also Jim is still the only midfielder we have in the style he plays.

All posts have said they have confidence in LW to get it right so no one is being dramatic. At the same time confidence is massive in football, can make the same players good or bad. If we lose some more in a row then it'll be a struggle to get rid of that. No one is saying we need to rip up anything and all our players are crap but at the same time we need a stronger defence that doesn't panic, to be more dynamic on the ball before it gets taken off us and to find a way to get Macca more chances. To say otherwise would be wrong.

[slack_pie]

The thing is no one is saying rip anything up. I said we can still play good football in this league but we need two defenders and to work out how to create chances. That's true, the defence wasn't great last season but we only played around 5 good teams in the league and against those we had mixed results. We have bad goals away all year but most glossed over it and probably forgot that it's a big step up against hungry teams.

The problem as I see it is that we aren't getting the very basics right. At this level, most successful teams focus on getting the basics down - being able to defend set pieces and balls into the box, being physically equipped for the battle, being well-organised and disciplined at the back. Once that foundation is set, you can start to build on top of it with flair and skill.

We're trying to master a style of play that no other team has ever really tried at this level, and all without having a solid foundation on which to try and be adventurous. As a result, the whole house has the tendency to collapse.

Get the basics right first, then think about the fancy stuff - not the other way round.

[magpie_mania]

The thing is no one is saying rip anything up. I said we can still play good football in this league but we need two defenders and to work out how to create chances. That's true, the defence wasn't great last season but we only played around 5 good teams in the league and against those we had mixed results. We have bad goals away all year but most glossed over it and probably forgot that it's a big step up against hungry teams.

We do need to press from the front, as we have seen in our two games so far, Sutton and Lincoln pressed us hard and won the ball back leading to goals. We do need to stop panicking when they cross the ball but we have done this for years. We also need to work out how to create chances against better defences who don't give us time on the ball. Ruben had what 16 assists last season. He's gone so where are they coming from? Nemane can't do it all. Also Jim is still the only midfielder we have in the style he plays.

All posts have said they have confidence in LW to get it right so no one is being dramatic. At the same time confidence is massive in football, can make the same players good or bad. If we lose some more in a row then it'll be a struggle to get rid of that. No one is saying we need to rip up anything and all our players are crap but at the same time we need a stronger defence that doesn't panic, to be more dynamic on the ball before it gets taken off us and to find a way to get Macca more chances. To say otherwise would be wrong.

Those mixed results, against the other teams in the top 7, including play-off games were:

W7 D6 L1

I'm more than happy with that.

[BJPIE]

As usual and rightly so, for this is a forum for us as fans and we all have differing opinions.
I would simply ask is there anyone out there who really understands why the club didn't address the defence in the close season?
It's a serious question because for all our success last season, we struggled to defend when out of possession.
I honestly have found that baffling.

[durhampie]

As usual and rightly so, for this is a forum for us as fans and we all have differing opinions.
I would simply ask is there anyone out there who really understands why the club didn't address the defence in the close season?
It's a serious question because for all our success last season, we struggled to defend when out of possession.
I honestly have found that baffling.

You need to ask Mr proactive, he knows everything

[1955pie]

As usual and rightly so, for this is a forum for us as fans and we all have differing opinions.
I would simply ask is there anyone out there who really understands why the club didn't address the defence in the close season?
It's a serious question because for all our success last season, we struggled to defend when out of possession.
I honestly have found that baffling.

Interesting question.
Maybe it is because you can't find a bargain when it comes to a defender - they can either defend or they can't.
OK they have to be able to play the position and you want them to be able to pass reliably and carry it out and head the ball etc but that info is there for all to see.
I suspect defenders have their price and you either pay it or you don't - and Notts are looking for bargains.

Or maybe Radars' system isn't too smart on defenders?