Every day the vaccine rolls out

[TerryTheTerror]

In your opinion what benefit comes from barring unvaccinated people from football games - given that the vaccine does not prevent transmission?

It's an interesting point (the last one). We know covid is different in that you can spread it without any symptoms but is it unusual for a virus to be able to spread even from vaccinated people? Is this new? It seems to be and in combination with the first point it is the thing which gives politicians the fear.

[VanDerHoorn]

It's an interesting point (the last one). We know covid is different in that you can spread it without any symptoms but is it unusual for a virus to be able to spread even from vaccinated people? Is this new? It seems to be and in combination with the first point it is the thing which gives politicians the fear.

That the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission isn’t anything special about the virus, it’s a limitation of the vaccine itself.

Why we dogmatically accept and parrot this segregation of unvaccinated and vaccinated (eg unvaxxed can’t go to football games) is beyond me. It’s unfair and certainly not scientific.

It’s especially weird in light of modern day pushes for non discrimination and equality.

[TerryTheTerror]

That the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission isn’t anything special about the virus, it’s a limitation of the vaccine itself.

Yeah but this isn't a normal state of affairs with vaccines for other viruses is it?

This subject is well out of my area of expertise: video games and football. 🤪

[Chick A Saw]

Yeah but this isn't a normal state of affairs with vaccines for other viruses is it?

This subject is well out of my area of expertise: video games and football. ��

The current available vaccines are not intended to rid us of the virus, that takes years to develop, although can still be developed from one of the current vaccines.

[VanDerHoorn]

I think everyone should get the vaccine, especially when it has been reported that the vaccine has reduced transmission.

It has been scientifically proven that it does not reduce transmission so the only benefit is a personal one of reduced risk of disease severity,

[Chick A Saw]

It has been scientifically proven that it does not reduce transmission so the only benefit is a personal one of reduced risk of disease severity,

What does this quote mean in the article ive linked to?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...cleInformation

"Before the emergence of the delta variant, it was reported that after at least one dose of the mRNA vaccine by Pfizer or the adenoviral vector vaccine by Astra Zeneca, the risk of symptomatic cases in household contacts of vaccinated cases was about 50% lower than that among household contacts of unvaccinated cases."

A quick google shows up many links that also mention that vaccines do indeed reduce transmission. Like i said above, that makes sense to me because if they stop serious cases, further down the line, they must stop infections in becoming bad enough to transmit to others.

Have you had your vaccines?

[TerryTheTerror]

The current available vaccines are not intended to rid us of the virus, that takes years to develop, although can still be developed from one of the current vaccines.

Thanks but I'm still none the wiser. 🙂

[VanDerHoorn]

Yeah but this isn't a normal state of affairs with vaccines for other viruses is it?

This subject is well out of my area of expertise: video games and football. 🤪

Traditional viruses use the whole virus/bacteria after it has been deactivated in sone way so the body can make responses to all different parts of the virus/bacteria.

Covid vaccines only expose the body to the spike protein, not the whole virus. There are established vaccines that do this too for other diseases but mostly they have needed tweaked and improved over time to work optimally.

There’s more on it here if you are interested: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/research/vaccine-types

[TerryTheTerror]

Excuse the language but phuckme. 🙂

[tHeArAb]

Maybe we have tied up with Fulham to play our home matches at Craven Cottage.I bet far more than 500 would attend.

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