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  1. #1
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    I would love to know who these Rafa knockers would want as Manager, its easy to knock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinostongue View Post
    I would love to know who these Rafa knockers would want as Manager, its easy to knock.
    i know... in my view rafa is better than anyone we have had in last 10 years under ashley (I'm not including kk in that though - even though his last tenure didn't go well, he is still a legend to me - but even he hasn't achieved as much as rafa yet) and i cannot think of anyone at all who would come here and do a better job - and still look and sound honest, keeping us informed as it is , not as how ash and co would like us to know.

    Maybe some UNKNOWN would do a brilliant job - who knows - any unknown is just as likely to do a crap job. 50 / 50 gamble.

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    I can't suggest a replacement for Rafa but that doesn't mean, I think, that he should be immune from the criticism that any manager would get after the run of results we've had. Chris Hughton got us promoted first time of asking and was sacked in favour of a 'manager with more experience' ( Pardew ). Enough said. Replacing Rafa would be a big gamble. He's right to compare the cost of our squad with that of Man U or Chelsea but we've also been beaten by Huddersfield, Watford and Bournemouth. But if we're in the bottom 3 by mid January, which is quite possible especially if we don't spend enough in the Jan transfer window, I can see Ashley pushing the panic button and getting someone else. I say Ashley because I'd be surprised if he wasn't still the owner then.

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    Rafa is covering his own arse whilst also making it all about him. Cake and eat it both ways.

    He's liable to walk in January if he doesn't get what he wants and he'll cite being lied to or not getting what he was promised.
    He's almost lost this entire squad as far s I'm concerned.
    It wouldn't surprise me if the players want a change.

    If I had my way I'd get rid of him now whilst there's still a chance of getting the best out of what we've got, because Rafa certainly isn't.
    He's on a sickening contract, he's almost a mercenary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Rafa is covering his own arse whilst also making it all about him. Cake and eat it both ways.

    He's liable to walk in January if he doesn't get what he wants and he'll cite being lied to or not getting what he was promised.
    He's almost lost this entire squad as far s I'm concerned.
    It wouldn't surprise me if the players want a change.

    If I had my way I'd get rid of him now whilst there's still a chance of getting the best out of what we've got, because Rafa certainly isn't.
    He's on a sickening contract, he's almost a mercenary.
    Why do I always get depressed after your comments..... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannylad View Post
    Why do I always get depressed after your comments..... ?
    I'm not exactly over the moon to be making them but I have to be true to myself as to how i really see things.
    I hope I'm a misery and I'm being one for no reason but I don't see any good in what's going on. I see turmoil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Rafa is covering his own arse whilst also making it all about him. Cake and eat it both ways.

    He's liable to walk in January if he doesn't get what he wants and he'll cite being lied to or not getting what he was promised.
    He's almost lost this entire squad as far s I'm concerned.
    It wouldn't surprise me if the players want a change.

    If I had my way I'd get rid of him now whilst there's still a chance of getting the best out of what we've got, because Rafa certainly isn't.
    He's on a sickening contract, he's almost a mercenary.
    Wow, we are really not on the same page here. Before the season began, would you have expected - in a justifiable way - that we would be anywhere else than where we are in the table? What other manager, world-class or not, do you think could've done a lot better with this budget in this market and with that squad? Give me a name if you can think of one - pboro can't.

    I don't agree with all of Rafael's tactical dispositions, not at all. Why Mitrovic hasn't been given more chances is simply beyond me when we're not winning games. And the defensive system isn't quite working right now. It did to begin with though. And until we get better players, I can't blame Rafa for our current tactics. Especially not when we actually gave Chelsea a good fight. Gives me hope.

    Also, a mercenary? C'mon man Ghost, you're better than that.

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    Whilst I cant agree with peterwolf on everything.
    I honestly think if there wasn't a takeover in the offing/Rafa wasn't on a mega contract,he would be getting the heave-ho about now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughieg View Post
    wow, we are really not on the same page here. Before the season began, would you have expected - in a justifiable way - that we would be anywhere else than where we are in the table? What other manager, world-class or not, do you think could've done a lot better with this budget in this market and with that squad? Give me a name if you can think of one - pboro can't.

    I don't agree with all of rafael's tactical dispositions, not at all. Why mitrovic hasn't been given more chances is simply beyond me when we're not winning games. And the defensive system isn't quite working right now. It did to begin with though. And until we get better players, i can't blame rafa for our current tactics. Especially not when we actually gave chelsea a good fight. Gives me hope.

    Also, a mercenary? C'mon man ghost, you're better than that.
    he is a mercenary
    he wouldnt have joined us if the money hadnt been right
    every argument he has with ash is money based

    would he have joined us for 2 mill a year
    would he phuck
    i can gaurantee you he didnt even start talking to the club untill they agreed to his wages and bonuses

    he sold his soul to ashlys millions

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    he is a mercenary
    he wouldnt have joined us if the money hadnt been right
    every argument he has with ash is money based

    would he have joined us for 2 mill a year
    would he phuck
    i can gaurantee you he didnt even start talking to the club untill they agreed to his wages and bonuses

    he sold his soul to ashlys millions
    What else would he be talking to Ashley about? Gardening?

    Btw, you're wrong when you say Liverpool don't want him back. Many fans feel he would be better for them than Klopp at the moment. He is a legend there, so watch your filthy mouth.

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