King Luke to Swansea

[OP67]

If a manager wants to go, he’ll go.

Swansea still haven’t agreed compensation with Southampton for Russell Martin.

Hopefully our owners a tad more savvy and will not release hims from the contract until all monies are paid. Sounds like the Swans have a bit of a dodgy owners.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

This is what I don't get. You meet a Clubs valuation or agree to it when under contract, before talks. As of last night, according to reports in Wales, this part not agreed & other things.
They are paying big bucks for a really unknown. He failed at Swindon, done well here but we are an unusual set up. The Swans won't be like us

Perhaps the club has allowed it and set a minimum compensation level that Swansea are trying to haggle. It could also be that the club were aware of the approach and are now squeezing Swansea for more compensation rather than reporting them.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

I can’t help but laugh. Basically, any manager/head coach that has won anything is no good, it’s all the players? If it wasn’t for Aguero, Mancini wouldn’t have won a Premier League. If it wasn’t for the class of 92, Fergie wouldn’t have nearly as many trophies.
Of course having good players makes a difference, however, those players still need a tactical template to play to. Those players need managing and motivating. A manager/head coach needs to try and get every ounce of ability out of a player. LW has done that in spades with the vast majority of the squad.
The next head coach has a good squad to utilise and I am intrigued at how he/she will keep this squad motivated, tighten us up at the back without losing the offensive prowess we possess.
2024 is already stressful as we look set to lose 2 of our biggest assets. I really hope it’s a bad dream and I wake up on Feb 1st and we have our current team and management but with a few additions.

What changed the most between IB and LW? The style of play was similar, tactics similar, we created a similar number of chances, the biggest difference was we put them away. How many times under IB would we put teams under the cosh, not score then concede a sloppy goal? Didn't happen under LW because Langstaff and Scott put them away and made the pressure count.

[Notts78]

What changed the most between IB and LW? The style of play was similar, tactics similar, we created a similar number of chances, the biggest difference was we put them away. How many times under IB would we put teams under the cosh, not score then concede a sloppy goal? Didn't happen under LW because Langstaff and Scott put them away and made the pressure count.

But you have no idea whether LW wouldn’t have done better with IB’s squad. The fact that players say the detail LW goes in to us unlike anyone they have played under, says everything.
My point still remains that you are stating the obvious about players.. of course good players make a difference. A manager still needs to keep everyone happy, motivated and at their best. LW did that, IB didn’t. I do think LW is a better coach than IB, but I don’t agree that he is miles better. Like with the squad, a couple of small improvements have made a difference.
Let’s agree that no manager in history has ever achieved anything. It’s all the players. After all it’s them that play not the managers.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

What changed the most between IB and LW? The style of play was similar, tactics similar, we created a similar number of chances, the biggest difference was we put them away. How many times under IB would we put teams under the cosh, not score then concede a sloppy goal? Didn't happen under LW because Langstaff and Scott put them away and made the pressure count.

Let's also remember we had a soft underbelly under IB and lacked that aggression and bit extra that was needed to challenge for automatic promotion especially away from home away on cold dark winter nights. Some may argue it's the case now after five defeats on the road, but I feel the current away defeats have been more down to inconsistency, individual errors better quality opposition and compound fatigue due to injuries we have had this season so lack of options on the bench as opposed to our style of play.

[since41]

All of it!
If he leaves today, we stop paying his salary and then just start with a new head coach when appointed.

So they're going to work for nothing they will want the same contracts lf not more than LW and Assistant.

[OP67]

So they're going to work for nothing they will want the same contracts lf not more than LW and Assistant.

LW earned his new contract with promotion back to the Football League. A new coach would start on a basic (good) wage and have to earn a pay rise just like any other job. Why would a new coach expect the same wage??

[Elite_Pie]

So they're going to work for nothing they will want the same contracts lf not more than LW and Assistant.

So we stop paying Williams and Harley and start paying the new lot. We still keep all the compensation.

[1955pie]

So we stop paying Williams and Harley and start paying the new lot. We still keep all the compensation.

Unless we have to pay compensation for their replacements.
And as Swansea fan Magic Michu says that they haven’t sorted out the Russell Martin compo yet.

[queenslandpie]

Unless we have to pay compensation for their replacements.
And as Swansea fan Magic Michu says that they haven’t sorted out the Russell Martin compo yet.

Given we were looking at poaching Altrincham managers before LW came in we are clearly happy to pay a bit of compo. They are 5th in NL. Maybe we have another look? Won't be expensive.