Plymouth post match reflections

[Derbymiller]

In posting this, I can predict your response, however both PD and MH said at the start of the season the following:

https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.u...udget-5198629#

It doesn?t specifically prove the point I made but it very much points to a competitive budget. Unless of course you think PW didn?t have one during his tenure.

I remember that article, it is clear that SE was useless and wasted the money in most cases, the TS shouldn’t give money to his mates and that MH has also made some terrible signings. The common players in those two seasons, the poor contract management and the signing of Hugill is of course RS and PD, yet they constantly avoid criticism whilst others don’t. These two will also be active making decisions in January……….good luck.

[Heliosphan78]

According to this, Rotherham are currently paying the 7th highest wages in the league, which essentially translates to the 7th highest budget (excluding fees paid for players). It won't be totally accurate but it probably gives a reasonable indication.

(Scroll down past the bar chart to see the spend on wages)

https://www.capology.com/uk/league-one/payrolls/

One thing to remember is that this is WAGES and not the budget given to Hamshaw in the summer. Our manager will have inherited a lot of players on good wages from the previous regime (Hugill, Kelly, Raggett, Dawson and others) and so therefore the money available to him last summer to bring in new players may not necessarily have been the 7th highest in the league, if that makes sense.

[Derbymiller]

According to this, Rotherham are currently paying the 7th highest wages in the league, which essentially translates to the 7th highest budget (excluding fees paid for players). It won't be totally accurate but it probably gives a reasonable indication.

https://www.capology.com/uk/league-one/payrolls/

One thing to remember is that this is WAGES and not the budget given to Hamshaw in the summer. Our manager will have inherited a lot of players on good wages from the previous regime (Hugill, Kelly, Raggett, Dawson and others) and so therefore the money available to him last summer to bring in new players may not necessarily have been the 7th highest in the league, if that makes sense.

Very good point. It does look like we have some very poor management at various levels at the club, that isn’t aimed at MH as he is really a coach not a manager.

[caytonmiller]

According to this, Rotherham are currently paying the 7th highest wages in the league, which essentially translates to the 7th highest budget (excluding fees paid for players). It won't be totally accurate but it probably gives a reasonable indication.

(Scroll down past the bar chart to see the spend on wages)

https://www.capology.com/uk/league-one/payrolls/

One thing to remember is that this is WAGES and not the budget given to Hamshaw in the summer. Our manager will have inherited a lot of players on good wages from the previous regime (Hugill, Kelly, Raggett, Dawson and others) and so therefore the money available to him last summer to bring in new players may not necessarily have been the 7th highest in the league, if that makes sense.

If you click on the figures it gives you a price for each position. Keeper, defence, midfield , attack...
We spend 780k on keepers wages. Since we only have 2 that's 15k per week on keepers. From the links figures , Would it be fair to say Dawson could be on 10k per week?
Our strikers are on 1.3 million per year. We have 6 strikers (2 on loan.). Even an even split between the 6 it's ?4200 each per week. Can't imagine Ayres and kayode being on much.
Defence is where the big money is spent.
2.6 million per year. I count 9 players who play there. Even split 9 ways is ?5500 per week.

Imo we have some very high earners in this club and I can imagine it being eaten up on.
Dawson
James
Rafferty
Raggett
Hugill
Maybe Kelly... All of whom don't have a sell on value.
Imo only 2 of those are worth keeping beyond this summer which could free up a couple of million in wages

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Very good point. It does look like we have some very poor management at various levels at the club, that isn’t aimed at MH as he is really a coach not a manager.

He?s neither and given a budget 20 times what he has now he wouldn?t know what to do with it

[millers88]

MH needs to stop praising opposition before we play them saying they're in a false position and this and that. Why give em that boosting confidence we should be winning those last 2 matches just about everyone else has beaten them apart from us really poor.

[mellowmiller]

In posting this, I can predict your response, however both PD and MH said at the start of the season the following:

https://www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.u...udget-5198629#

It doesn?t specifically prove the point I made but it very much points to a competitive budget. Unless of course you think PW didn?t have one during his tenure.

I remember reading this article at the time and thinking it was just more smarmy words from our esteemed COO.
He was unlikely to say anything other than we have a competitive budget as that would be tantamount to heresy for criticising the chairman, something no-one on the board ever dares to do!
We may or may not have a competitive budget and, to be honest, I don't really know what one would look like anyway at this level.
One thing is for sure is that we rarely recruit proven players from a higher level to give us a realistic chance of a promotion push.
I think quite a few people were hoping the club might have done that in its centenary year.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I remember reading this article at the time and thinking it was just more smarmy words from our esteemed COO.
He was unlikely to say anything other than we have a competitive budget as that would be tantamount to heresy for criticising the chairman, something no-one on the board ever dares to do!
We may or may not have a competitive budget and, to be honest, I don't really know what one would look like anyway at this level.
One thing is for sure is that we rarely recruit proven players from a higher level to give us a realistic chance of a promotion push.
I think quite a few people were hoping the club might have done that in its centenary year.

We have to keep reminding ourselves that the club has only one aim and that?s not to go bust. Everything else is secondary

[mellowmiller]

We have to keep reminding ourselves that the club has only one aim and that?s not to go bust. Everything else is secondary

Maybe a coherent strategy to retain existing supporters and attract new ones would be a novel idea?
I haven't checked in detail but I think home attendances have been falling despite the recent unbeaten run.

[RU66]

Can't see us being able to get the quality of player we got in not so long ago. So need a manager who can get best out of budget we have now. Hamshaw didn't.