Dundee United v Aberdeen

[irnbru1903]

So it was 31 points from the first 11 games and only 22 points from the last 27 games. That should not be possible, but somehow it happened.

Almost the mirror image of Hibs. Which manager is getting the best out of their team without spending(wasting) so much money? One on an upward trajectory and the other crashing and burning. I say this knowing that we have a cup final coming up that could change the whole complexion of that but we all know what is going to happen there.

[Don Julio]

I?m too crestfallen to lay into anyone, tbh. But we certainly lack firepower up front. Once Nisbet comes off it?s hard to see us scoring.

[rico94]

Well sadly my original prediction proved 100% correct.

But that was entirely predictable. That team and squad are unbelievably soft - both physically and mentally.

Reflection of the manager if we are honest.

Slightest pressure they just crumble.

Basically hes signed a bunch of players wholly unsuited to the demands of Scottish fitba.

Priority one is sign a proper spine to the team - proper mannies CH, centre midfield and striker - not the gutless fairies hes packed that team out with this year.

That team as it stands are genuine relegation material next year, and if he keeps signing the same profile of player he has been, then it will stay that way, and he will be gone by Xmas.

I cant really come on here and defend Thelin after our 4th defeat in a row. I was hoping he would turn it around next season but I reckon he might walk away in the summer, if he doesnt he will be gone by Christmas.

Im so pissed off with that squad of players, absolutely no back bone to any of them, if they get put under any pressure they fall to bits.

The problem is if the next guy comes in and tries to make them hard to beat they wont be able to do that either.

A complete overhaul of the squad is needed again, this head of recruitment recommending players is a joke, obviously not looking at the character of any of these players just ability.

The way things are being run at the club I cant see the next manager lasting longer than a year like the rest of them.

[TheDeeDon]

I cant really come on here and defend Thelin after our 4th defeat in a row. I was hoping he would turn it around next season but I reckon he might walk away in the summer, if he doesnt he will be gone by Christmas.

Im so pissed off with that squad of players, absolutely no back bone to any of them, if they get put under any pressure they fall to bits.

The problem is if the next guy comes in and tries to make them hard to beat they wont be able to do that either.

A complete overhaul of the squad is needed again, this head of recruitment recommending players is a joke, obviously not looking at the character of any of these players just ability.

The way things are being run at the club I cant see the next manager lasting longer than a year like the rest of them.

I was told in February he was wanting back to Sweden. It apparently all goes back to the assistant boy going back last year.

Apparently the club were happy to a parting of the ways at the end of the season, if he still felt the same way.

I honestly have no idea if true. The person who told me is usually quite good, but I haven't spoke to him since that day for any sort of update.

[The_Moog]

Totally agree and the irony is that the manager said that all of the players that he looked to sign would, as a pre-requisite, have to have a certain type of character. He is clearly not a very good judge of character I assume!? A team of spineless wimps. .

Clearly either that was just complete pish, or the type of character he wants and looks for is completely wrong.

He seems to think hes still in the Swedish league - which Im sure is nowhere near as quick and physical as it is here.

He needs to accept the fact he needs to adapt his style to his environment.

That doesnt mean signing a bunch of hoofball merchants. It does mean signing players with the physical and mental attributes to play against hoofball merchants though.

You can surely get players who fit your system but also have the physical and mental traits required.

Sadly, hes shown zero indication he can so far and the clock is very much ticking now.

[TheDeeDon]

It's been a rollercoaster of a season with many highs and many lows, but what a flat way to end a league season that initially promised so much.

All we needed was a draw today and couldn't even get that. The one thing I really wanted from this season, was to not finish below Utd and what happens...

Seeing Jack Mack coming off the pitch, on a chair with a head injury, due to something allegedly thrown from our own fans was quite a sight and not a good look for the club.

[The_Moog]

All we needed was a draw today and couldn't even get that. The one thing I really wanted from this season, was to not finish below Utd and what happens...

All we needed was a draw over 45 minutes when we were already a goal up - and they couldna even manage that. In fact, we could afford to lose that second half 1-0, but no.

Thats how utterly weak and feeble this team are.

As for the walking away bit - if Thelin is as weak mentally as his squad, then its a definite possibility, but if as you say the club were aware of the possibility and also open to it at season end, why have they allowed him to spend all that money in January and another 400k last week on the Aussie?

Doesnt really add up for me.

[TheDeeDon]

All we needed was a draw over 45 minutes when we were already a goal up - and they couldna even manage that.

Thats how weak and feeble this team are.

As for the walking away bit - if Thelin is as weak mentally as his squad, then its a definite possibility, but if as you say the club were aware of the possibility and also open to it at season end, why have they allowed him to spend all that money in January and another 400k last week on the Aussie?

Doesnt really add up for me.

How much say has he got in bringing in players though?
I honestly don't think he has much say if being honest, just like I didn't think previous managers had too much influence over our signing policy either.
It's just to disjointed for my liking.

We know Nilsen was his boy, but the rest? Who knows, not me.

If what I posted has any truth in it, we will likely find out in the next two weeks.

[rico94]

I was told in February he was wanting back to Sweden. It apparently all goes back to the assistant boy going back last year.

Apparently the club were happy to a parting of the ways at the end of the season, if he still felt the same way.

I honestly have no idea if true. The person who told me is usually quite good, but I haven't spoke to him since that day for any sort of update.

If he does go in the summer then it?s pointless bringing another foreign manager because it?s not going to work.

People will have to accept the run of the mill manager from the Scottish merry go round.

Maybe see how Leven gets on but im not optimistic.

[TheDeeDon]

If he does go in the summer then it?s pointless bringing another foreign manager because it?s not going to work.

People will have to accept the run of the mill manager from the Scottish merry go round.

Maybe see how Leven gets on but im not optimistic.

A foreign manager could work, if he understands the basics, knows how to keep players motivated and is flexible with tactics.

I suspect it will be another appointment from Scotland, which may not be a bad thing, but not too many managers that are currently standing out.

I wouldn't be against Leven taking a shot at it. He showed in a short spell last season that he could organise a team and keep the players motivated. He also showed some tactical nous during games too, something we have missed this season. Appointing him would still be a risk, but any manager we appoint will be a risk.

If Jimmy stays and get on with it, then we just have to hope he turns it around very, very quickly as he will be under pressure from the start.