Change in disciplinary punishments

[DerbyDaDream]

RR, you seem like a smart fellow with more than two brain cells. You're not seriously letting this get under your skin are you? Whoever DDD is (and while I could care less if it is or isn't Rats it wouldn't surprise me one little bit if this was the sad sort of thing that gives him tingles in his nethers) there is nothing to be won from engaging. As I said, I don't mean it as a slur, but (s)he is obviously someone either pretending, or actually, well down the intelligence ladder. They can't string a sentence together, pretend or not, and seem unable, again pretend or not, to be able to understand what is written in response.

There is no way you are going to get them to shut up - the buzz of the fight, the delusional belief they gave the witty put down or brilliant one liner is too strong for them to resist - as you will see when I get the unsual inarticulate and bumbling reply to this post from them.

Watch me, they simply can't resist - can you DDD, you just can't?

Keep plugging it....

[roger_ramjet]

Past behaviour! the ban was for posting links to other sites to clarify up my comments you fool, that didn’t even deserve a ban what you are doing of constant abuse deserves a ban and for all I didn’t get around anything, mine was a temporary ban that was a farce, and look who want’s me back on it just proves my point time and time again.

You are a ****.

Actually now I come to think of it, you are right. I dont understand how I could have doubted you - I am a ****. I really should be banned and you are right, so should Ramanag, and Romanis and now BaaLocks and anyone who doubts what you write (assuming they can understand it, as it is clearly on a mental plane well above ours). We are not worthy.

[DerbyDaDream]

Actually now I come to think of it, you are right. I dont understand how I could have doubted you - I am a ****. I really should be banned and you are right, so should Ramanag, and Romanis and now BaaLocks and anyone who doubts what you write (assuming they can understand it, as it is clearly on a mental plane well above ours). We are not worthy.

There is nothing wrong with doubt but you are not doubting, you are constantly throwing abuse so nothing more to say.

[mistaram]

This thread has gone of topic Thought we were discussing the tackle on Sane and Peps reaction to it Well why Rob tries to justify that tackle I find astonishing He says what's is the defender supposed to do when a skillful player like Sane is running at you Well for a start he wasn't running at Bennett he was running away from him and that was a calculated injury inducing tackle Afraid when you play a Warnock team this is always likely to happen to skillful players So watch out Vydra you will be top of the list when we play them

[ramAnag]

This thread has gone of topic Thought we were discussing the tackle on Sane and Peps reaction to it Well why Rob tries to justify that tackle I find astonishing He says what's is the defender supposed to do when a skillful player like Sane is running at you Well for a start he wasn't running at Bennett he was running away from him and that was a calculated injury inducing tackle Afraid when you play a Warnock team this is always likely to happen to skillful players So watch out Vydra you will be top of the list when we play them

You’re right mista. Dreadful tackle and Pep’s reaction was purely that of someone who knew how much damage could have been done. Bennett could have stopped the action by tripping the near leg but he actually went across the near leg to hit the most vulnerable part of the other leg with his studs. You can defend professional fouls, we all know that, but you can’t defend that type of tackle imo. Bennett’s aim was to take Sane out of the match, again imo...not hard, just calculating.

Not sure it’s typical Warnock, have a reluctant admiration for what he’s achieved, but Cardiff did look a nasty bunch in that match.

[Rob_the_Ram]

This thread has gone of topic Thought we were discussing the tackle on Sane and Peps reaction to it Well why Rob tries to justify that tackle I find astonishing He says what's is the defender supposed to do when a skillful player like Sane is running at you Well for a start he wasn't running at Bennett he was running away from him and that was a calculated injury inducing tackle Afraid when you play a Warnock team this is always likely to happen to skillful players So watch out Vydra you will be top of the list when we play them

I wasn’t trying to justify the Bennet tackle Mista, I was attempting to raise a general question about whether the current punishments need extending. So you can slim down your astonishment! I was trying to add context by what Pep is currently saying about player protection in general. That tackle was X-Rated and the player did get the right punishment although do you think it was enough??
I was trying to make the point, poorly it seems, that the quicker the attacking player is, the more likely he is to be on the end of a poor tackle. It doesn’t always mean it’s malicious, just a defender making a genuine attempt that he doesn’t get right. More than a yellow but less than a red. Sin bins??

Shame though that out of 90 odd replies, only yours, Anags and maybe a couple others have discussed the point!!

[ramAnag]

I wasn’t trying to justify the Bennet tackle Mista, I was attempting to raise a general question about whether the current punishments need extending. So you can slim down your astonishment! I was trying to add context by what Pep is currently saying about player protection in general. That tackle was X-Rated and the player did get the right punishment although do you think it was enough??
I was trying to make the point, poorly it seems, that the quicker the attacking player is, the more likely he is to be on the end of a poor tackle. It doesn’t always mean it’s malicious, just a defender making a genuine attempt that he doesn’t get right. More than a yellow but less than a red. Sin bins??

Shame though that out of 90 odd replies, only yours, Anags and maybe a couple others have discussed the point!!

Did he ‘get the right punishment’, Rob? It’s a while ago now, but I thought he only got a yellow and was sent off towards the end for a second yellow.
I’d have given a straight red for the foul on Sane, but the confusion over the penalties in yesterday’s match at Anfield does show how hard the officials’ job can be.
Still think Jerome’s yellow against Bristol should be rescinded. Don’t think there’s a facility for it but there should be imo.

[Rob_the_Ram]

Did he ‘get the right punishment’, Rob? It’s a while ago now, but I thought he only got a yellow and was sent off towards the end for a second yellow.
I’d have given a straight red for the foul on Sane, but the confusion over the penalties in yesterday’s match at Anfield does show how hard the officials’ job can be.
Still think Jerome’s yellow against Bristol should be rescinded. Don’t think there’s a facility for it but there should be imo.

No I don’t think Bennett got the right punishment. I think a straight red would have been the right decision.
What I was trying to get us discussing was the general point of it’s either Nothing, Yellow Card, Red Card and the difference between Red and Yellow is huge!!
Yellow is really just a punishment for the player that the totting up system may result in a ban. However in the actual game the offence was committed, there is no real advantage to the team that was fouled against unless in the box or they score from a free kick just outside. And no real disadvantage to the fouling team unless (as above).
But to give a red, the ref has to be pretty definite that the foul was dangerous or reckless. Without certainty in his mind, he has to give a yellow - favouring the offending side.
Yellows are given for removing ones shirt in the excitement of scoring, kicking the ball away, bad mouthing etc as well as serious foul play. It doesn’t seem right even though the punishments for the non football offences are known before play starts.
I think last ditch (just mistimed) tackles such as I would expect OUR defenders to make in that situation should be Yellow with an additional punishment that benefits the attacking team.
I’d say a 15 min Sin Bin would be about right. And just to make it so that the offending TEAM is punished and to try to stamp out such reckless fouls in the first place, how about the fouled team deciding which player from the fouling team sits out the 15 mins. Peer pressure as well as the manager’s displeasure would surely drop offending.

[MadAmster]

Did he ‘get the right punishment’, Rob? It’s a while ago now, but I thought he only got a yellow and was sent off towards the end for a second yellow.
I’d have given a straight red for the foul on Sane, but the confusion over the penalties in yesterday’s match at Anfield does show how hard the officials’ job can be.
Still think Jerome’s yellow against Bristol should be rescinded. Don’t think there’s a facility for it but there should be imo.

Kane has now come out and said "he felt contact so he went down". That is enough to tell me that it wasn't a penalty. Football is still (only just though) a contact sport. If mere contact is enough to warrant going down we would never see all 22 players simultaneously on their feet.

Man up Kane. You go down when you can't stay upright any longer. This is the sort of cissy behaviour that is both making a ref's job even harder and ruining the game.

[roger_ramjet]

There is nothing wrong with doubt but you are not doubting, you are constantly throwing abuse so nothing more to say.

Absolutely, couldn't have put it better myself