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Thread: Matt Taylor offered Rotherham job!

  1. #81
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    Poor judgement in talking to the press before a decision has been made. Possibly enough to withdraw the offer? The area shouldn't worry him. Went to Sheffield Hallam and you don't have to live in East Dene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    So what do you think we should do if none of the applicants have managed for a full season at championship level?

    But you say we must have one in the dugout for Wednesday. Where are you going to get him from?
    What a stupid question, if nobody met that criteria you adjust your selection criteria. I was asked what my definition of experienced is, so I gave one. Not saying it is right or wrong it is my opinion, you know the thing you have but seem to think is better than everyone else's. At the end of the day the club will appoint a manager that they believe is the best fit for the club and when they do I like any sensible supporter will be right behind him, hoping he is successful. The original point of my comment is we cannot go into another game with Wood and peltier in the dugout, it was clear yesterday they do not have the experience and ability to get the players to raise themselves to perform at the levels we have seen earlier this season. We need the management appointment so everyone knows where they stand and hopefully the players will lift their heads up, stop any self pity and prove themselves to the new boss. That should also motivate the fringe players, who get a clean slate.
    I just want a manager in and like the rest of you i have to trust the recruitment process

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasterman View Post
    Poor judgement in talking to the press before a decision has been made. Possibly enough to withdraw the offer? The area shouldn't worry him. Went to Sheffield Hallam and you don't have to live in East Dene.
    i noticed that Last. His brother played for Worksop and has had links to other clubs around here.He's from Chorley so a move back up North may be one of the things that attracts him.I don't buy any of the idea that Rotherham is not an attractive club to play for or manage because of the town.You could still do both and live in The Peak District if you wanted to,or anywhere else within an hour and a half.Many have and many do.The only time most players have probably ever been into the town centre is on promotion bus tours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geetarman View Post
    Don't worry, the simpleton has a system to win the lottery, it's only a matter of time before he scoops the big one, and when he does he'll buy an extra mayday ticket to ensure that the Millers have a competitive budget for years to come.



    You think your clever but unlike you I've backed the club over many years so I've every right to my view. Warney said he'd only bring players in to improve the side. Humphreys Bramall Eaves haven't. Wood he can play in an emergency but he should have been replaced by now. New manager he's got his work cut out can't change anything player wise while January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gru View Post
    You think your clever but unlike you I've backed the club over many years so I've every right to my view. Warney said he'd only bring players in to improve the side. Humphreys Bramall Eaves haven't. Wood he can play in an emergency but he should have been replaced by now. New manager he's got his work cut out can't change anything player wise while January.
    You don’t back the club at all, you pay your money, there’s a difference.

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    The thing that would worry me if I was a Miller would be just how " Warne Reliant " are we .

    I say this and I take the point it's from 12 miles away but he's held the job at the NYS an awful long time and you lads know way more than me on just how reliant you are on Warne .

    I've experienced over here what can happen if you are manager reliant , when Val left for WBA we totally collapsed last season , to say the least .

    Val was manager at Oakwell 9 months , Warne a good few years and by definition his DNA is all over your club , bound to be because that kind of service gives a manager way more influence on a club than your average boss whose tenure is far less .

    I've never actually believed he was just a good league one manager but found wanting at championship level , I thought you were extremely unlucky to go down in the lock down season , if you'd had half the luck we had when we stayed up on the final night at Brentford in 2020 you'd have managed it easily , fine margins and Warne didn't have that bit of luck you need in the championship .

    The move from TS in my opinion should be to try and replicate Warne , Taylor looks to be from that stock .

    Ok he's not a name but with all due respect neither was Warne , he went to the third division from the championship when all is said and done .

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    He pays for the right to attempt to prove his vast knowledge of the game, only to continually prove that he knows nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geetarman View Post
    He pays for the right to attempt to prove his vast knowledge of the game, only to continually prove that he knows nothing.
    There's a Chinese proverb in there somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    The thing that would worry me if I was a Miller would be just how " Warne Reliant " are we .

    I say this and I take the point it's from 12 miles away but he's held the job at the NYS an awful long time and you lads know way more than me on just how reliant you are on Warne .

    I've experienced over here what can happen if you are manager reliant , when Val left for WBA we totally collapsed last season , to say the least .

    Val was manager at Oakwell 9 months , Warne a good few years and by definition his DNA is all over your club , bound to be because that kind of service gives a manager way more influence on a club than your average boss whose tenure is far less .

    I've never actually believed he was just a good league one manager but found wanting at championship level , I thought you were extremely unlucky to go down in the lock down season , if you'd had half the luck we had when we stayed up on the final night at Brentford in 2020 you'd have managed it easily , fine margins and Warne didn't have that bit of luck you need in the championship .

    The move from TS in my opinion should be to try and replicate Warne , Taylor looks to be from that stock .

    Ok he's not a name but with all due respect neither was Warne , he went to the third division from the championship when all is said and done .
    Very good points made. Warne's style of management is very much all down to how he motivates people. What he lacked in technical and tactical ability he more than made up for in how he got the best out of players. His ethos in how he managed the club, at all levels, seemingly got everyone performing at their best.

    That nice guy, good human being thing was derided by many, described as "building a brand" by others but it got us success and much more cheaply than some of the bigger clubs around us. I use SWFC as an example because they are on our doorstep. But in the same time frame that Warne managed us, they spent vastly more money than us and went through six managers. They haven't achieved as much as we have. Warne wasn't perfect but his style of doing things, being able to build a solid team without individual stars, to be able to spot ability with players and bring them on, it all worked for RUFC within the very tightly controlled budget we have.

    The team performance yesterday felt like we lost that extra motivation and exposed the limitations we have. We seemed like a bunch of church goers who were suddenly questioning their faith because their vicar turned out to be a con man. Players who's contracts are up soon who would have still dug in for Warne looked as though they were going through the motions, already moved on mentally. Players who came here because Warne sold the club to them seemed to be questioning why they bothered. The caretaker managers tried to keep things EXACTLY as Warne would have done them but managed to emulate nothing but his worst habits (ie not subbing Wiles, playing hoofball up to Washington, waiting too long to bring Kelly on).

    The only way this club can survive at this level and within the responsible budget set by Tony Stewart is to get that positive mentality back and continue to play as a team. A team of players who'd run through brick walls for their manager. It's a tough ask and whoever gets the gig is going to need 100% support from all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    The thing that would worry me if I was a Miller would be just how " Warne Reliant " are we .

    I say this and I take the point it's from 12 miles away but he's held the job at the NYS an awful long time and you lads know way more than me on just how reliant you are on Warne .

    I've experienced over here what can happen if you are manager reliant , when Val left for WBA we totally collapsed last season , to say the least .

    Val was manager at Oakwell 9 months , Warne a good few years and by definition his DNA is all over your club , bound to be because that kind of service gives a manager way more influence on a club than your average boss whose tenure is far less .

    I've never actually believed he was just a good league one manager but found wanting at championship level , I thought you were extremely unlucky to go down in the lock down season , if you'd had half the luck we had when we stayed up on the final night at Brentford in 2020 you'd have managed it easily , fine margins and Warne didn't have that bit of luck you need in the championship .

    The move from TS in my opinion should be to try and replicate Warne , Taylor looks to be from that stock .

    Ok he's not a name but with all due respect neither was Warne , he went to the third division from the championship when all is said and done .
    The problem with warne departure is. The players are all good people and followers. They are the perfect players to manage. But without that strong leader they are weak in confidence. Not saying it's right or wrong but people who think woody can step into that role are deluded. Woody is a calming influence not a leader.
    He's the mediator between the man in Charge and the followers.
    Choice in Exeter and Rotherham budget wise then it's the millers every time. Both clubs are stable though Exeter wouldn't be without the finance from the sell on clause of Watkins. They lose 1.5 million last season and 1 million the season before, though the books say 3 million profit due to Watkins bonus

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