Apply for a Voter Authority Certificate now

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

Although there was only one case of Voter Impersonation in the last General Election the government has spent 180 million pounds on a system which accepts certain identity documents as proof of identity in order to vote in any elections. The list of valid identity documents is biased towards those who will vote Conservative, i.e. a Senior Citizen Oyster Card is acceptable but an 18+ Oyster Card is not. Generally, the majority of the electorate that is under 45 years old votes Labour and those over that age vote Conservative.

Whichever way you wish to vote in any future elections, beginning with May's Local Authority Elections, you should apply to your council for a Voter Authority Certificate. With such certificate you can definitely vote. We do actually want everyone to vote, do we not, regardless of who they vote for? That would be democracy. Applications must be received by your local authority by April 25th.

https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-photo-i...ty-certificate

[Chauncey]

The list of valid identity documents is biased towards those who will vote Conservative, i.e. a Senior Citizen Oyster Card is acceptable but an 18+ Oyster Card is not.

Hmmm,that not QUITE true though is it Stefan?

I clicked onto the link and found out that a passport or driver's licence will be perfectly acceptable to vote with which I'm pretty sure that most 18+ers would have either one or the other,what's the political term again "Economical with the truth"?

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

Hmmm,that not QUITE true though is it Stefan?

I clicked onto the link and found out that a passport or driver's licence will be perfectly acceptable to vote with which I'm pretty sure that most 18+ers would have either one or the other,what's the political term again "Economical with the truth"?

I do not doubt that the holders of driving licences and passports will be allowed to vote when they present such documents at a polling station. My point is that young people are less likely to have a driving licence / passport than those over 45 years old. The older that you are the more likely it will be that you will have experienced foreign travel, so fewer people under 45 will hold passports than young people. Given the UK economy since 2010 it is probable that fewer young people can afford to even contemplate buying a car, so they will not have driving licences. The most blatant electoral discrimination is that a Senior Citizens Oyster Card is valid for voting purposes but an 18+ Oyster Card is not valid. This is blatant electoral discrimination.

The over 45 people largely vote Tory, the under 45 people largely vote Labour.

So Chalky, what I state is true. This legislation is biased towards allowing Tories to vote and suppressing the Labour vote. Merely stating that there are documents that allow you to vote does not cut it. A significant proportion of the under 45 year olds will not have these documents.

For the sake of democracy everyone should apply to the local authority in order to get a Voter Authority Certificate, regardless of what other documents you have. You absolutely can vote vote if you have this. There can surely be no argument whatsoever against this.

Only bigoted Tories can have any objection to this 'fair play for all' attitude.

Even Frank has no point to make against this being seen as electoral discrimination, he merely makes a different but still invalid response.

[Psaw]

Labour have cheated through postal voting. About time proof was needed.

[howoldboy]

Labour have cheated through postal voting. About time proof was needed.

I agree with your second sentence.

Prove that "Labour have cheated through postal voting".

Otherwise you should withdraw the accusation.

[_Stefan_Kuntz]

Frank,
Are you saying that the Labour Party organised the breaking of electoral law? If that is the case you can be absolutely certain that if there was evidence for that it would have led to numerous court cases. Once again Frank, here is something that you will detest. Provide evidence to prove it and then send such evidence to the prosecuting authority. Evidence / proof are not exactly your strong areas.

[Chauncey]

Maybe you are right Stefan as I wouldn't put it past them or any other political party for that matter to edge the odds a little more in their favour,I'm going to leave the rest of the conversation to you lot and Frank because I've got bored of politics tbh