OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[swaledale]

I think you need to read this!

https://www.powerofpositivity.com/kn...all-behaviors/

Yes the Boris approach of no plan no strategy no keeping promises, changing his tack when it suits him! So in a period of nationalcrisis, the approach should be one of blind optimism, rather than pragmatic strategy?

And Angry calls me a raving looney? Mm well folks its long been obvious that there is no way of having a rational debate with the majority of those who support Brexit, and this thread amply proves that point - Leavers have no coherent view, no factual basis on why brexit will be good for the country or at least I ahve yet to hear one, but apparently if we **** the country up and have blind optimism all we turn out well! Ye gods how utterly crazy can one get?

Not that I'm remotely bothered, its fun to come on here and see people spout utter nonsense and stick to points of view that can and have been torn apart several times, its a bit like talking to a committed christian, theres more proof against the existence of a god, but blind faith rules!



Tis true that the people get the politicians they deserve, no hang on some politicians are actually sentient, so in fact many are better than the electorate deserve.

[Egyptianram]

I think you need to read this!

https://www.powerofpositivity.com/kn...all-behaviors/

I did not think I would post on here again although I do look at it now and then But this link in this post is
perfect and should also be looked at by another well known remainer on here.

Can't humans discus things without insults. Goodbye again!

[mistaram]

Had to have a go..

''You're the Strategist''
(An influential organiser) You've got the perfect plan, so others follow it.

Is it too late to join the Tory Party? I've got this Brexit poo nailed. We're okay folks.
Working on my manifesto now..

**** Joke Alert ****
Cardigans are banned, so are slippers. More to come.
Also working on the new cabinet.
Minister of repetition - Let me think.
Foreign Minister - MoP
Minister for deprived areas - TTR
Minister of subliminal messages - Geoff.
WIP

Swaledale is in the Monster Raving Loony Party, so no openings there. Square peg, square hole.
Now Misatram... Hmmm there is a difficult one. Minister for misinformation?

Now let me think Angry Ram Minister for right wing naivety

[AngryRam]

Now let me think Angry Ram Minister for right wing naivety

Touché

The optimum word there being ‘right’.
Anyway I am the Prime Minister.. The survey said I am always right, so it can’t be wrong..

[AngryRam]

And Angry calls me a raving looney? Mm well folks its long been obvious that there is no way of having a rational debate with the majority of those who support Brexit, and this thread amply proves that point -
Not that I'm remotely bothered, its fun to come on here and see people spout utter nonsense

Have you read your posts? You have summed yours up perfectly..

Always makes me smile when people say they are not remotely bothered, when they post with passion like you do. You obviously are bothered.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think you need to be Minister for War as well Angry

[MadAmster]

Mays deal was the WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT, which would then allow up two years to negotiate the final trade and other deals - how a transition period ties any country into anything is beyond me, as is the complete inability of most people to understand even the most simple concepts surrounding the EU, whoever thought about having a referendum was completely crackers!

Yes it was and it stitches the UK up like a kipper. Do you really think the trade and other agreements over the following 2 years will be any more favourable? Things that will help the EU like Security, Police cooperation, Intel etc but Trade is soemthing they will still want to ut big tariffs on to dissuade others from daring to try to leave.

When did Mayhem finally come up with that hastily put together Chequers agreement? 6 or so months before the first deadline if I remember correctly. Prior to that they had done very little or they wouldn't have had to pull an all weekender at Chequers.

All part of their plan to either Remain or at least have the UK more in than out.

[AngryRam]

I think you need to be Minister for War as well Angry

I’m like Mother Theresa.

[mistaram]

Touché

The optimum word there being ‘right’.
Anyway I am the Prime Minister.. The survey said I am always right, so it can’t be wrong..

Yes it's better to be more right than wrong .But you're more wrong than right Just pulling your chain

[AngryRam]

Yes it's better to be more right than wrong .But you're more wrong than right Just pulling your chain

Banter needs work yoof. Getting better but not there yet.

Mind this thread is better now. Bit of politics, bit of humour. What could go wrong.
Off to mark some posts now. Teacher stuff.

[ramAnag]

Thats where the driving over the cliff analogy comes in, its not an easy option to stay, its the most sensible and best option for the UK and its citizens. How on earth is it a sensible decision to become more isolationist, be dependent upon the largesse of bigger countries with more bargaining power and in many cases dubious political views, instead of being part of a group of countries cooperating together?

Of course we will be outside pissing in, what part of we will still have to observe the vast majority of EU regulations and laws because the majority of our trade is with the EU do you not understand, how do you not realise the inter dependency between the UK and the EU which will continue to be the case after Brexit?

Your optimism that something will turn up and save the day is misplaced, Brexit has already cost the UK and its citizens millions of pounds, its a self inflicted wound, the only grounds you and the majority of Brexiteers have is that somehow, everything will turn out Ok and if there is further economic fall out, well thats a price worth paying for so called independent sovereignty, which will actually be no greater than now in reality?

Yet again in a conversation with a Brexit supporter, not one single advantage of brexit can be claimed, just vague assumptions that "everything will turn out fine" and a complete ignoring of the nature of the people who are leading the Brexit charge.

Anyway we wont be leaving without a deal, IF we actually leave at all, no sane politician who truly has the interests of the UK and its citizens at heart would allow that to happen.

For me the above makes perfect sense. Can understand some concerns about the EU but we really shouldn’t, imo, be throwing out the proverbial baby with the bath water.

One of the arch Brexiteers on here - can’t remember who - has conceded that ‘Brexit will be painful’ while others, of greater political significance, have suggested it may take half a century for the country to recover. Pain is, imo, seldom a good thing...delayed recovery little better...both are to be avoided, so will someone please explain...why are we even continuing to considering this option?

[Geoff Parkstone]

Because the majority voted for it (🙄🙄&#128580

[AngryRam]

For me the above makes perfect sense. Can understand some concerns about the EU but we really shouldn’t, imo, be throwing out the proverbial baby with the bath water.

One of the arch Brexiteers on here - can’t remember who - has conceded that ‘Brexit will be painful’ while others, of greater political significance, have suggested it may take half a century for the country to recover. Pain is, imo, seldom a good thing...delayed recovery little better...both are to be avoided, so will someone please explain...why are we even continuing to considering this option?

As Geoff so directly put it. Because the majority voted for it.
I mark your post E-
As with all the other false claims by those with ‘greater political significance’ who spouted doom after the referendum. Complete wasters.
How does the saying go? No pain, no gain.

[MadAmster]

63% didn't vote Leave.

67% didn't vote Remain.

[Trickytreesreds]

Not the percentage chestnut again?

Every election/vote/referendum ever must be null and void then.