OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[AngryRam]

I could throw into the debate the fact that staying could set us back 75 years! Who can tell, but against that setting 50 isn't bad. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that without Brexit all would be rosy in the garden.

This decision has always been about trading off negatives. The question is, will the pain you allude to be more or less negative than existing under an undemocratic autocratic and corrupt institution that is pursuing objectives that are ultra vires its own initial intent that we subscribed to under Heath.

The trade benefits (or loss of them) and probable economic downside of leaving vs the institutional freedoms and loss of independence of staying.

What is greatly ironic is that you as a self confessed Liberal prefer the options of economic advantage as if a capitalist. Equally the more capitalist leaning Angry is supporting the Liberal freedoms of self determination and independent thought.

Strange fruit....

Careful you will confuse him with all those words. I think it's better we keep to small sentences.

I did elude to something similar to your last point in an earlier post. The so called big business that supports Farage and the likes have more to gain from staying in and increased globalisation. Big business runs the EU. Surely that is against everything the left stands for. It's all arse about face.
Once we leave, we can start to move forward. We can start to talk to other nations about deals. But we have to leave first.
Exciting times once we finally get out.

[AngryRam]

I didn't know what I was voting for.
Remainers are much more knowledgable
Tommy Robinson running rings around someone lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VsZBLBgphU

Still, they can watch a good film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwslRDTyzU

This sense of humour outbreak, comes with an apology from TTR productions*

We don't do humour.. It turns them into victims. Wasted on here.

Actually Boris as a little kid was quite worrying..

[ramAnag]

I could throw into the debate the fact that staying could set us back 75 years! Who can tell, but against that setting 50 isn't bad. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that without Brexit all would be rosy in the garden.

This decision has always been about trading off negatives. The question is, will the pain you allude to be more or less negative than existing under an undemocratic autocratic and corrupt institution that is pursuing objectives that are ultra vires its own initial intent that we subscribed to under Heath.

The trade benefits (or loss of them) and probable economic downside of leaving vs the institutional freedoms and loss of independence of staying.

What is greatly ironic is that you as a self confessed Liberal prefer the options of economic advantage as if a capitalist. Equally the more capitalist leaning Angry is supporting the Liberal freedoms of self determination and independent thought.

Strange fruit....

I don’t think everything is rosy in the EU garden GP, but we have been doing quite well as members...if it ain’t broken don’t fix it...just seek to improve.

I didn’t initially ‘allude to the pain’...Angry did and I simply don’t recognise how this ‘autocratic’ EU institution is having such a massively negative impact upon the well being of UK citizens.

Capitalism and Liberalism are not mutually exclusive. I fully recognise the benefits of socially responsible and ethical capitalism and clearly much depends upon ‘economic advantage’ meaning I have no problem with it whatsoever and am wholly in favour of self determination and independent thought. Imo we will be losing more freedoms than we gain by leaving the EU.

Beyond that...still waiting Angry...or was that it? ‘Once we leave, we can start to move forward. We can start to talk to other nations about deals’. Is that the best you’ve got? Got to say...I expected better.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I simply don’t recognise how this ‘autocratic’ EU institution is having such a massively negative impact upon the well being of UK citizens.

Nor did Neville Chamberlain, but that didnt turn out to good as an option in the next 10 years

[ramAnag]

I simply don’t recognise how this ‘autocratic’ EU institution is having such a massively negative impact upon the well being of UK citizens.

Nor did Neville Chamberlain, but that didnt turn out to good as an option in the next 10 years

Oh c’mon Parky...you can’t seriously compare the Europe of the late thirties and the Munich agreement with what is happening today.

[AngryRam]

Beyond that...still waiting Angry...or was that it? ‘Once we leave, we can start to move forward. We can start to talk to other nations about deals’. Is that the best you’ve got? Got to say...I expected better.

Quote from a previous post.

1. We've answered the bloody why question but yet again you fail to understand the points. Numerous people have made their points about leaving but you it appears won't be satisfied until someone says what you want to hear.

God I hope you didn’t teach anything of importance.

[AngryRam]

I’m guessing religious education?

[ramAnag]

I’m guessing religious education?

About as good at guessing as you are at debating then.

As I said almost four hours ago, ‘no sidetracking...no pontificating’...just answer the question. Still waiting.

So far you’ve come up with, ‘Once we leave, we can start to move forward. We can start to talk to other nations about deals’.

Brilliant! The political equivalent of a manager selling all his best players before adding, ‘It’ll be alright we can talk to other players now they’ve left.’

[Trickytreesreds]

Don't be a bully, just say no/out/quit/whatever




This sense of humour outbreak, comes with an apology from TTR productions*

[AngryRam]

About as good at guessing as you are at debating then.

As I said almost four hours ago, ‘no sidetracking...no pontificating’...just answer the question. Still waiting.

So far you’ve come up with, ‘Once we leave, we can start to move forward. We can start to talk to other nations about deals’.

Brilliant! The political equivalent of a manager selling all his best players before adding, ‘It’ll be alright we can talk to other players now they’ve left.’

Again read the ****ing 200 odd pages and posts.
People have given their reasons for voting leave and their perceived benefits.
I see no reason in accommodating you when it is all in the previous pages. Do some work yourself.
Stop embarrassing yourself.

Okay, second guess cookery? I’m getting there aren’t I.

[AngryRam]

Don't be a bully, just say no/out/quit/whatever




This sense of humour outbreak, comes with an apology from TTR productions*

Fancy ever having a beer with the guy. I’d be asleep within 30 mins.
Absolutely nothing there. I am sure he is Forest on a wind up.

Waits for righteous indignation.

[ramAnag]

Lol...no!

Angry, 200 pages and nearly 5000 posts ago the argument was a little different.

The question was asked in post #4904 at 4.23 this afternoon. Since then you’ve posted five times and avoided answering each time.
Even you can’t need the question again, so stop wriggling and just answer.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Again read the ****ing 200 odd pages and posts.
People have given their reasons for voting leave and their perceived benefits.
I see no reason in accommodating you when it is all in the previous pages. Do some work yourself.
Stop embarrassing yourself.

Okay, second guess cookery? I’m getting there aren’t I.

Welsh literature?

[mistaram]

I didn't know what I was voting for.
Remainers are much more knowledgable
Tommy Robinson running rings around someone lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VsZBLBgphU

Still, they can watch a good film.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwslRDTyzU[/u


This sense of humour outbreak, comes with an apology from TTR productions*

What the fxxk has terrorism to do with Brexit

[AdiSalisbury]

May I play? I'm going to suggest English teacher, and Head of Years 10 & 11, before being disgraced for an affair with the French teacher, paid off early and now on the GCSE exam board?