OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[mistaram]

Now that I do agree with. The same as the idiotic decision to have a degree to be a nurse.

How many people went through university for a career degree they didn't like at the end of it?

When I was in for 5 weeks, we had 2 girls on the ward of 16 and 17.
The were nursing assistants, who worked 9 till 5 mon- Fri .
The idea was they do this for a year(paid) and if they liked it, they would go on the nursing degree.
They were brilliant and said they loved doing it. Whoever thought of that, I applaud.
The right people get the job, the people get to see if they like it. Money is channelled into the right candidates.
I got my son to buy flowers for them and a box of choccies for the rest.
Much appreciated.

Yes I think that's a great idea At least you end up with people go actually want to nursing Pretty sure after twelve months they know if it's the correct career for them Its a win win for all concerned

[Geoff Parkstone]

Here's one GP practice that hasnt

[macstheman]

Whatever the problems with the NHS I only have the highest praise. Nearly four years ago a routine blood test revealed a problem. My GP rang me at home to say he was referring me urgently to the Derby Royal, this was at 8.30am on the Friday, twenty minutes later he rang me back to say I was to be admitted immediately for further tests and told me to go straight to the ward!! Within an hour of arriving at the hospital I had had further blood tests and a thorough examination. I was kept in over the weekend and had yet more blood tests.
To cut a long story short between late October and mid December I had had MRI scans, CT scans, X-ray's and several biopsies taken, I had surgery on the 16th December. I then had 7 weeks of intensive RT on a number of tumours which were unoperable. At all times I received wonderful care from all the staff despite them being continually busy. Whilst the experience was not a pleasant one it certainly presented the health service as a modern efficient
and caring organisation and certainly one I can only praise. I continue to receive ongoing treatment and that praise continues to grow.

[swaledale]

Whatever the problems with the NHS I only have the highest praise. Nearly four years ago a routine blood test revealed a problem. My GP rang me at home to say he was referring me urgently to the Derby Royal, this was at 8.30am on the Friday, twenty minutes later he rang me back to say I was to be admitted immediately for further tests and told me to go straight to the ward!! Within an hour of arriving at the hospital I had had further blood tests and a thorough examination. I was kept in over the weekend and had yet more blood tests.
To cut a long story short between late October and mid December I had had MRI scans, CT scans, X-ray's and several biopsies taken, I had surgery on the 16th December. I then had 7 weeks of intensive RT on a number of tumours which were unoperable. At all times I received wonderful care from all the staff despite them being continually busy. Whilst the experience was not a pleasant one it certainly presented the health service as a modern efficient
and caring organisation and certainly one I can only praise. I continue to receive ongoing treatment and that praise continues to grow.

I do hope that you make a full recovery and yes we should be thankful that we have such a service.

[Trickytreesreds]

Whatever the problems with the NHS I only have the highest praise. Nearly four years ago a routine blood test revealed a problem. My GP rang me at home to say he was referring me urgently to the Derby Royal, this was at 8.30am on the Friday, twenty minutes later he rang me back to say I was to be admitted immediately for further tests and told me to go straight to the ward!! Within an hour of arriving at the hospital I had had further blood tests and a thorough examination. I was kept in over the weekend and had yet more blood tests.
To cut a long story short between late October and mid December I had had MRI scans, CT scans, X-ray's and several biopsies taken, I had surgery on the 16th December. I then had 7 weeks of intensive RT on a number of tumours which were unoperable. At all times I received wonderful care from all the staff despite them being continually busy. Whilst the experience was not a pleasant one it certainly presented the health service as a modern efficient
and caring organisation and certainly one I can only praise. I continue to receive ongoing treatment and that praise continues to grow.

Top words Mac and I hope you get over this

[Trickytreesreds]

Tricky...far be it from me to recommend private over public and I know we loathe each other but, in relation to your father and for reasons I won’t go into, I know something about the problems you refer to.
You may of course already know this but...the old way of syringing ears is largely discredited nowadays. Suction is now considered more effective and less intrusive but not that many GP practices have the required equipment.
Once your dad has used the drops for a week or so there are private individuals who offer the service - I think there’s one in Derby with the delightful name of ‘Wax Management’ or something similar - and it should cost between £35-£60. There’s a fair few to choose from, possibly more in Nottingham, and it might speed the process up for comparatively little cost.
Might be worth looking into...just a thought.

Thank you, I'll look into that if it's a good option.

[macstheman]

Thanks Swale. Much appreciated.

[macstheman]

Thanks Tricky. Fingers crossed!!

[ramAnag]

Whatever the problems with the NHS I only have the highest praise. Nearly four years ago a routine blood test revealed a problem. My GP rang me at home to say he was referring me urgently to the Derby Royal, this was at 8.30am on the Friday, twenty minutes later he rang me back to say I was to be admitted immediately for further tests and told me to go straight to the ward!! Within an hour of arriving at the hospital I had had further blood tests and a thorough examination. I was kept in over the weekend and had yet more blood tests.
To cut a long story short between late October and mid December I had had MRI scans, CT scans, X-ray's and several biopsies taken, I had surgery on the 16th December. I then had 7 weeks of intensive RT on a number of tumours which were unoperable. At all times I received wonderful care from all the staff despite them being continually busy. Whilst the experience was not a pleasant one it certainly presented the health service as a modern efficient
and caring organisation and certainly one I can only praise. I continue to receive ongoing treatment and that praise continues to grow.

Good to hear mac. I honestly think the NHS has its failings but is brilliant when such emergency treatment is required and I genuinely hope everything works out for you.
To add another perspective...someone very, very close to me became similarly ill about eighteen months ago, only in the USA.
They received superb treatment and the prognosis is good...the bill however has already topped $2,000,000 and there is more treatment to come.
Fortunately the person concerned had the required insurance. God help those who don’t and that’s not a road I’d like to see us go down in the UK.

[Andy_Faber]

Good to hear mac. I honestly think the NHS has its failings but is brilliant when such emergency treatment is required and I genuinely hope everything works out for you.
To add another perspective...someone very, very close to me became similarly ill about eighteen months ago, only in the USA.
They received superb treatment and the prognosis is good...the bill however has already topped $2,000,000 and there is more treatment to come.
Fortunately the person concerned had the required insurance. God help those who don’t and that’s not a road I’d like to see us go down in the UK.

Mac, totally agreeing with RA, good for you and good to know that despite it all, those with the skills are applying them to the max. I'm aware of RA's anecdote and can share mine that in 2017 I had a phone call from USA (fortunately from someone I vaguely knew not a stranger) telling me my wife was seriously ill and the hospital needed my credit card details before they would admit her...again, fortunately covered by insurance. In a non-party political way, thank God for the NHS

[Trickytreesreds]

Good to hear mac. I honestly think the NHS has its failings but is brilliant when such emergency treatment is required and I genuinely hope everything works out for you.
To add another perspective...someone very, very close to me became similarly ill about eighteen months ago, only in the USA.
They received superb treatment and the prognosis is good...the bill however has already topped $2,000,000 and there is more treatment to come.
Fortunately the person concerned had the required insurance. God help those who don’t and that’s not a road I’d like to see us go down in the UK.

We never will.
Any party that tried to do that, would be finished. That's why I don't believe a word of Corbyns anti semitic smoke screen.
But it must be managed better, to keep it on the straight and narrow.
It must be removed from politics for it's own good.
The government shouldn't have sole ownership of what goes on.
It should be run by a coalition of selected MP's of all parties and to an agreed budget.
It must work within that budget and justify its working.

It is not a political football! Every election we go through this.

[Andy_Faber]

Amazingly naive, rA? Tell me more....

I look at Indian and other Asian immigrant groups, West African groups etc and I see an exceptional degree of family loyalty and commitment to look after one another, generation by generation. Its good to see. The basic white English populace seem to have somewhat cynically divorced themselves from any responsibility for their family or extended family, preferring instead to maximise earnings and leave their "duty" to children or the elderly in the hands of others.

I'd have to disagree with that, based on pretty direct personal involvement/experience, and which I've touched on before. My observation, based on people I shared my breakfast table with this morning, its that direct, is that in some of those immigrant groups (you missed one in particular though) the burden falls to a massive extent on the female family members, male members much too often being totally absent, a peripheral figure or present and unwilling to help. The latter two remind me of my grandad's generation when the husbands 'went down the pub'. The young lads I know aren't blind to this and tell me that the feeling in their generation is that 'it has to stop' and the burden within relationships should be more evenly spread, I'll paraphrase 'more like you and Mrs F do it'. That's not me blowing my own trumpet, just offering a different perspective on a complex issue

[mistaram]

[QUOTE=macstheman;39371976]Whatever the problems with the NHS I only have the highest praise. Nearly four years ago a routine blood test revealed a problem. My GP rang me at home to say he was referring me urgently to the Derby Royal, this was at 8.30am on the Friday, twenty minutes later he rang me back to say I was to be admitted immediately for further tests and told me to go straight to the ward!! Within an hour of arriving at the hospital I had had further blood tests and a thorough examination. I was kept in over the weekend and had yet more blood tests.
To cut a long story short between late October and mid December I had had MRI scans, CT scans, X-ray's and several biopsies taken, I had surgery on the 16th December. I then had 7 weeks of intensive RT on a number of tumours which were unoperable. At all times I received wonderful care from all the staff despite them being continually busy. Whilst the experience was not a pleasant one it certainly presented the health service as a modern efficient
and caring organisation and certainly one I can only praise. I continue to receive ongoing treatment and that praise continues to grow.[/QUO

Mac hope everything finishes in a positive way for you Both yours and Trickys treatment shows what a precious commodity our NHS is

[macstheman]

Thanks everyone, your thoughts are appreciated.
As you say rA, the cost of modern treatment is frightening. Modern medicine offers great opportunities to help the sick but is, inherently, mind bogglingly expensive. Quite what my treatment alone has cost makes ones eyes water.
I agree with Tricky that threats to the NHS should be permanently removed and his idea of cross party management is well worth pursuing.
Perhaps we ought to get the NHS to mend DCFC!! God, that would cost a pretty penny.

[ramAnag]

We never will.
Any party that tried to do that, would be finished. That's why I don't believe a word of Corbyns anti semitic smoke screen.
But it must be managed better, to keep it on the straight and narrow.
It must be removed from politics for it's own good.
The government shouldn't have sole ownership of what goes on.
It should be run by a coalition of selected MP's of all parties and to an agreed budget.
It must work within that budget and justify its working.

It is not a political football! Every election we go through this.

Tricky...you say ‘any party that tried to do that, would be finished’...but that’s the point. Any party that openly tried to do that as part of their manifesto would indeed be ‘finished’.

It’s what those two totally untrustworthy figures - Johnson and Trump - are getting up to in secret and off the record that concerns me.

Agree about the coalition of all party selected MP’s as an alternative.