Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

Would have thought my nickname’, as you put it, is rA…which could stand for the Egyptian God of the Sun or - rather less flatteringly - rheumatoid arthritis. Take your pick.
‘Rear Gunner’ isn’t a ‘nickname’ it’s a term which just you, TTR and, more occasionally, AF turn to when my agreement with or defence of Swale irritates you.
I make no claim to its exclusivity so when you, rather more alarmingly, are found agreeing with or defending TTR it seems only fair to make the same claim but if you prefer ‘tail-end pig’ that’s up to you.

It was I who coined that phrase, your defence of obergrupenfuhrer Swale never irritated me, merely amused, but I’m over it now it just ‘seems a bit 1980s’ as the gen z’s say

[ramAnag]

It was I who coined that phrase, your defence of obergrupenfuhrer Swale never irritated me, merely amused, but I’m over it now it just ‘seems a bit 1980s’ as the gen z’s say

Fair enough Anführer. If you say so, I really don’t recall. Nothing more than a bit of silliness really as there are times when we all indicate disagreement or agreement with others on the/any forum.
Imagine your ‘amusement’ must be similar to my own at your relentless and record breaking (?) spat with Swale although, tbh, the whole ‘gammon’ squabble has become beyond tedious.

[Andy_Faber]

Fair enough Anführer. If you say so, I really don’t recall. Nothing more than a bit of silliness really as there are times when we all indicate disagreement or agreement with others on the/any forum.
Imagine your ‘amusement’ must be similar to my own at your relentless and record breaking (?) spat with Swale although, tbh, the whole ‘gammon’ squabble has become beyond tedious.

I agree its become tedious, but I note that you either miss, or choose to ignore, less justified and more serious jibes made in the other direction which, knowing the originator, will never stop. I'll bear you comment in mind though

Edit: the Anfuhrer thing WAS amusing, see we can have a josh in amongst all the other stuff. As regards record breaking, it doesn't even register compared to, lets say, the '37%' spat, and I wonder who ran with that one?

[MadAmster]

IMO, nowt tedious about gammon

https://www.coop.co.uk/recipes/ham-egg-chips-and-peas

[ramAnag]

I agree its become tedious, but I note that you either miss, or choose to ignore, less justified and more serious jibes made in the other direction which, knowing the originator, will never stop. I'll bear you comment in mind though

Edit: the Anfuhrer thing WAS amusing, see we can have a josh in amongst all the other stuff. As regards record breaking, it doesn't even register compared to, lets say, the '37%' spat, and I wonder who ran with that one?

Nothing to do with me, AF…and I can hardly be blamed for NOT commenting can I?

P.S. Often wondered about the AF initials.
The ‘37% spat’ was, and still is, of rather more consequence than a petty squabble over the acceptability or otherwise of the description of an angry, florid face.

[Andy_Faber]

Nothing to do with me, AF…and I can hardly be blamed for NOT commenting can I?

...which betrays your loyalties/bias. Ah well...

[ramAnag]

...which betrays your loyalties/bias. Ah well...

That’s just ridiculous…don’t even go there. How can steering well clear of a daft squabble ‘betray’ any ‘loyalties/bias’?

[Andy_Faber]

That’s just ridiculous…don’t even go there. How can steering well clear of a daft squabble ‘betray’ any ‘loyalties/bias’?

You're missing my point rA so I'll just let it go

[ramAnag]

You're missing my point rA so I'll just let it go

I would if I were you…largely because you don’t have a point.
Not even you can criticise me for taking sides and then criticise me again for remaining silent when you two fall out for the umpte enth time.
I have an opinion but, tbh, your squabble is too childish for me to become involved.

[swaledale]

Fair enough Anführer. If you say so, I really don’t recall. Nothing more than a bit of silliness really as there are times when we all indicate disagreement or agreement with others on the/any forum.
Imagine your ‘amusement’ must be similar to my own at your relentless and record breaking (?) spat with Swale although, tbh, the whole ‘gammon’ squabble has become beyond tedious.

Hardly a squabble rA, AF says something that isn't true, I corrected him and explained why he was wrong. Unfortunately AF can't accept his interpretation isn't correct, but then thats par for the course with him tbf.

I do admit to throwing gammon in just to provoke him, silly I know but sometimes can't resist making him look a little foolish again. Anyway I'll desist, rather like Thicky's *******s one has to recognise when minds are fixed and deluded.

[swaledale]

No wonder Farage is not interested in serving the people of Clacton as a constituency MP!

Nigel Farage appears to have become the highest-earning MP, having made almost £1.2m a year from GB News.

In the first register of interests of the new parliament, the Reform UK MP declared that he was earning £97,900 a month as a presenter for GB News, the channel co-owned by the hedge fund billionaire Paul Marshall.

Farage also revealed that his visit to the US on 17 July – in the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump – cost £32,000 and was funded by Christopher Harborne, a Thailand-based crypto investor who previously gave millions to the Brexit party. The purpose was recorded as “to support a friend who was almost killed and to represent Clacton on the world stage”.

A further £9,250 trip to the National Conservatism Conference in Brussels in April was funded by George Cottrell, an unofficial aide to Farage.

Cottrell, a high-profile figure in Farage’s entourage, spent eight months in an American jail in 2017 after being convicted of offering money-laundering services on the dark web. The crime was committed in 2014, before Cottrell worked for either the anti-EU party or Farage.


Of course all these people paying him are very obviously deeply concerned with the plight of the average person in the UK! How can Thicky and his ilk be so deluded?

[Geoff Parkstone]

No wonder Farage is not interested in serving the people of Clacton as a constituency MP!

Nigel Farage appears to have become the highest-earning MP, having made almost £1.2m a year from GB News.

In the first register of interests of the new parliament, the Reform UK MP declared that he was earning £97,900 a month as a presenter for GB News, the channel co-owned by the hedge fund billionaire Paul Marshall.

Farage also revealed that his visit to the US on 17 July – in the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump – cost £32,000 and was funded by Christopher Harborne, a Thailand-based crypto investor who previously gave millions to the Brexit party. The purpose was recorded as “to support a friend who was almost killed and to represent Clacton on the world stage”.

A further £9,250 trip to the National Conservatism Conference in Brussels in April was funded by George Cottrell, an unofficial aide to Farage.

Cottrell, a high-profile figure in Farage’s entourage, spent eight months in an American jail in 2017 after being convicted of offering money-laundering services on the dark web. The crime was committed in 2014, before Cottrell worked for either the anti-EU party or Farage.


Of course all these people paying him are very obviously deeply concerned with the plight of the average person in the UK! How can Thicky and his ilk be so deluded?

Or at least so says the Irish Times which is the unattributed source of this cut and paste plagiarism.

Yet somehow the poster only cut and pasted selective bits of the article, omitting the bit that also included "The newest register of interests also confirms that prime minister Keir Starmer was gifted four tickets with hospitality to a Taylor Swift concert by the Football Association, worth £4,000." and mentions "huge amounts of cash given to new MPs by the Labour Together think tank".

You would have done a great job for the Reichs Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Swale.

For those interested in the full article:

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/2024/08/16/nigel-farage-revealed-to-be-uks-highest-earning-mp-with-over-1m-a-year-from-gb-news/

[Andy_Faber]

Or at least so says the Irish Times which is the unattributed source of this cut and paste plagiarism.

Yet somehow the poster only cut and pasted selective bits of the article, omitting the bit that also included "The newest register of interests also confirms that prime minister Keir Starmer was gifted four tickets with hospitality to a Taylor Swift concert by the Football Association, worth £4,000." and mentions "huge amounts of cash given to new MPs by the Labour Together think tank".

You would have done a great job for the Reichs Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Swale.

For those interested in the full article:

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/...-from-gb-news/

ausschneiden und einfügen

[ramAnag]

Or at least so says the Irish Times which is the unattributed source of this cut and paste plagiarism.

Yet somehow the poster only cut and pasted selective bits of the article, omitting the bit that also included "The newest register of interests also confirms that prime minister Keir Starmer was gifted four tickets with hospitality to a Taylor Swift concert by the Football Association, worth £4,000." and mentions "huge amounts of cash given to new MPs by the Labour Together think tank".

You would have done a great job for the Reichs Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Swale.

For those interested in the full article:

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/...-from-gb-news/

Thanks for providing the whole article, GP, always good to get the whole picture…but it hardly discredits Swale does it?
The majority of the article is about Farage and his income streams/sources. The point Swale is making is surely about Farage and the question of whether he is actually providing a ‘service’ or ‘feathering his own nest’…again!

That point stands and is what anyone who has concerns about the behaviour of our elected representatives and their ‘influencers’ should be concerned by.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think my point was more that it's blatant unattributed plagiarism. Purely by chance cut from an article I read in the original very recently, so it was fresh in my mind.

I don't dispute the validity of questions about Farage and others political funding, but I've always thought it was a forum rule that sources were acknowledged (some sort of IP breach protection for FM?)

BUT it's hardly a surprise, all political campaigns are run on the back of donors who have vested interests at heart. And it's disclosed, which is refreshing. So is it necessarily wrong or is it just that financial support for a candidate that the author doesn't like makes it wrong? The politics of envy ?