Official Nelmsy Campus Countdown

[BCram]

I reluctantly want it to happen as the doomsday scenario I've been pointing oot since this stadium started getting bogged down in beuracracy....gets closer every few months that passes.

Doomsday scenario, ground share with our neighbours, or DFC disappears? Only other way out seems to be, we get behind this team and Elvis and his team and actually show there is a football club worth keeping, or worth selling to new investors. Getting Nelms Oot is not the solution,imo.

[islaydarkblue]

Sorry Islay, don't understand the point you are trying to make. What is the difference between a large sports centre and a football stadium? Surely the large sports centre at Caird Park was needing access from a trunk road, so what's the reason why the stadium can't be built using an access road of a different section of the same trunk road.

There are not 15,000 people exiting the sports centre at Caird Park at the same time.
The Campy Nou site would be an ideal site for a large sports centre similar to the one originally planned as the joint venture between Dundee City Council, Dundee FC and Dundee United FC.

[islaydarkblue]

And nothing from DSA or D4L.....pathetic

They will both be frightened to upset Nelms.

[islaydarkblue]

Doomsday scenario, ground share with our neighbours, or DFC disappears? Only other way out seems to be, we get behind this team and Elvis and his team and actually show there is a football club worth keeping, or worth selling to new investors. Getting Nelms Oot is not the solution,imo.

Tim Keyes should be sacking Nelms or putting Nelms on gardening leave.
Nelms could then concentrate on his new stadium development at Campy Nou.

[islaydarkblue]

Nobody but nobody is coming up smelling of roses here.

Council now accused of bias and at worst corruption.....and there's certainly evidence for the former

Transport Scotland......look belligerent and uncooperative

Nelms......looks like he thought he cud bulldoze this through and has upset AHH bugger along the way.

Fans now saying let's go above the council.....but hasn't even been to the council yet.

We are 4 years and counting from when nelms said we wud be in......it's not even at planning in principle whether " on steroids " or not.

We now have an 180k a year and a £150k a year meeting with Nelms......the 180k man hasn't been in contact since Feb 24.....a farcical situation.

Who is the 180k man.

[islaydarkblue]

Nobody but nobody is coming up smelling of roses here.

Council now accused of bias and at worst corruption.....and there's certainly evidence for the former

Transport Scotland......look belligerent and uncooperative

Nelms......looks like he thought he cud bulldoze this through and has upset AHH bugger along the way.

Fans now saying let's go above the council.....but hasn't even been to the council yet.

We are 4 years and counting from when nelms said we wud be in......it's not even at planning in principle whether " on steroids " or not.

We now have an 180k a year and a £150k a year meeting with Nelms......the 180k man hasn't been in contact since Feb 24.....a farcical situation.

I do not blame Dundee City Council as they can only deal with the plans they receive from Nelms on behalf of DBPHL.
There is nothing to prevent the members of the Dundee City Council discussing and voting on the plans as they stand.
However with one of the statutory consultees namely Transport Scotland stating that they are totally against the plans in their current form would result in the members of the Dundee City Council planning committee members having to abide by the laid down rules and voting against the DBPHL planning application.
At least it would shut up some of the vociferous members of TDB who are blaming Dundee City Council for delaying the discussion and vote on the DBPHL new stadium development PPIP.

[Deeranged]

There are not 15,000 people exiting the sports centre at Caird Park at the same time.
The Campy Nou site would be an ideal site for a large sports centre similar to the one originally planned as the joint venture between Dundee City Council, Dundee FC and Dundee United FC.

Didn't realise you were so highly qualified in town and sports planning that you can make this statement so confidently.

You're a surprising individual.

[Returnofrros]

Who is the 180k man.

Colgan 180k

Presswood 150k

[Returnofrros]

Have a look at the chief executive equality calender Islay....available on Dundee city council website......nelms has done well to get a meeting with what looks like the saviour of the world.

12 Aug......international youth day

8th sept....world literacy day

9th sept.....pension awareness day

10th sept.....world suicide prevention day

19 sept.....youth mental health day

21 sept.....international day of peace

Busy for whole of Oct..... international black history month

23-29 oct.....national inclusion week

5 Nov .....national stress day

3-6 Nov.....talk money week

2-9 Nov.....Scottish interfaith week....ie islam week

1 dec.....world aids day

Nov/Dec....16 days of activism against trans violence

There's no slip Rd day. 🤔

[Mainlanddee]

I have lost the plot with the roads issue. What are the two solutions? Can you give a link? It sounds odd because I thought that TS did not volunteer any solutions, ever. Just interested to be better informed and not meaning any criticism of your post.

TS say a graded slip road would be the ideal solution, Nelms does not agree , and has rejected this solution , probably due to cost

[Deeranged]

Busy for whole of Oct..... international black history month


2-9 Nov.....Scottish interfaith week....ie islam week

Couldn't see international white history month and why does a basically Christian country need an interfaith week?

[Deeranged]

TS say a graded slip road would be the ideal solution, Nelms does not agree , and has rejected this solution , probably due to cost

Is there enough rise and drop between the road and the proposed car park to allow for a graded slip or would it mean additional cost to bank up from the road and back to car park level? Is it a preference of TS or required by regulation?

I can 100% see why the developers would oppose the graded slip if it meant extra cost and if it's not absolutely necessary.

[BCram]

Is there enough rise and drop between the road and the proposed car park to allow for a graded slip or would it mean additional cost to bank up from the road and back to car park level? Is it a preference of TS or required by regulation?

I can 100% see why the developers would oppose the graded slip if it meant extra cost and if it's not absolutely necessary.

Thanks Deeranged for the point you make about Mainlanddee's information. Is it a preference or is it a requirement? Can see why John Nelms might want to argue the point.

[Mainlanddee]

[QUOTE=Deeranged;40740571]Is there enough rise and drop between the road and the proposed car park to allow for a graded slip or would it mean additional cost to bank up from the road and back to car park level? Is it a preference of TS or required by regulation?


I can 100% see why the developers would oppose the graded slip if it meant extra cost and if it's not absolutely necessary.[/QUOTE

Thats fair enough, but its wrong for nelms to sayTS have not provided any solutions, unfortunately at the end of the day , nelms needs TS approval to build a slip road off a TS road

[Returnofrros]

Couldn't see international white history month and why does a basically Christian country need an interfaith week?

Don't be silly, international white month for the largest world minority.....that's daft....oh hang on.

Because this country is in the process of becoming an islamic country...... appeasement never works though......just ask D4L