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  • Originally posted by magpie_mania View Post
    She is!
    Braverman gone and it looks like David Cameron is coming back into the government?

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    • Originally posted by i961pie View Post
      Braverman gone and it looks like David Cameron is coming back into the government?
      David Cameron returning to the cabinet looks a vote winner.

      For Labour and Reform UK.

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      • Originally posted by Elite_Pie View Post
        David Cameron returning to the cabinet looks a vote winner.

        For Labour and Reform UK.
        Bring back the bloke who ran off in 2016, that'll get the votes pouring in won't it.

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        • This is probably a great move, both Braverman being hooked by Sunak and a return for Cameron. It will stop a divide in votes between the fake Conservatives and the Reform Party, as I think this will have been the last straw for most if not all true Conservatives. It will provide the best chance of a different party coming to power in this country, with new and fresh ideas.
          If as is more likely, Labour now win the next election, I see this country, as we knew it, falling apart.

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          • Originally posted by Magpies1959 View Post
            It will provide the best chance of a different party coming to power in this country, with new and fresh ideas.
            If as is more likely, Labour now win the next election, I see this country, as we knew it, falling apart.
            Have you been a hermit for 13 years ? Every time I return it is more of a dump and now nothing works. UK has been asset stripped by gangsters.

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            • I agree it is getting worse, due in the main to rather large issues like Brexit and Covid. That doesn't stop me from thinking it will get even worse, quicker under a Labour government, and a king who is a WEF stooge, who looked totally bored at the cenotaph, and marched off before the end of the national anthem. So sorry for wanting the best future for the people of this country.
              Gordon Brown did a reasonable job of asset stripping this country by selling off half of the country's gold reserves.

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              • Originally posted by frenchmagpie View Post
                Have you been a hermit for 13 years ? Every time I return it is more of a dump and now nothing works. UK has been asset stripped by gangsters.
                I was in Nice and Marseille last week with work and I have to say it sees even worse than the UK now!

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                • Originally posted by Elite_Pie View Post
                  David Cameron returning to the cabinet looks a vote winner.

                  For Labour and Reform UK.
                  Labour shouldn’t need any help to oust this lot.

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                  • Magpies1959, whilst it may seem, on the face of it, that the selling gold reserves by Brown was a mistake (the price rose significantly afterwards), it needs to be looked at in a different way. Countries hold gold reserves as a way of controlling exchange rates and for contingency purposes. They actually, except in those circumstances, don't do anything to benefit the country. It's a bit like keeping a Rolex in the draw. Of no value unless you sell it.

                    If you want to talk about asset stripping, you should concentrate on such things as council houses, and the public utilities, which were sold off to enable the government of the day to offer tax breaks. The same can be said of the revenue from North Sea oil. The lack of council housing has been a major contributor to the shift from home ownership to renting. In the region of 60% of ex-council houses are now in the private rented sector earning profits for landlords at the expense of tenants. The privatised utilities pay huge dividends to shareholders (money which could have been going to the exchequer), whilst providing negligible service in, for example, the water industry which is responsible for polluting the UK's waterways.

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                    • Originally posted by Magpies1959 View Post
                      I agree it is getting worse, due in the main to rather large issues like Brexit and Covid.
                      At least we are in agreement for once that Brexit has made things worse.

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                      • Nice try EP, but you know full well I was meaning the unnecessary difficulties enforcing Brexit because of the Remainers reluctance to accept a democratic reforendum.

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                        • Surely it is for the Brexiteers to guide us to the Brexity sunny uplands? The winners (as the Brexiteers always like to point out) can't blame the losers for their prize not being what they thought it would be. They needed to come up with a credible plan everyone could get behind. The fact that they didn't is nobody elses fault than those that won the vote.

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                          • Remainers were never going to get behind any plan for Brexit, you know that very well KM. Sunak has today signed the leadership over to the Labour Party at the next election, so lets just see how that pans out. I suggest we will be even more closely aligned with the EU and the WEF and WHO if that was even possible. Coming so close to yesterdays Remembrance Day celebrations, it is such a slur on those who lost their lives fighting for this country's freedom, as we will have no say in anything, from health (future forced pandemics), to finance, to the security of this country.

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                            • Woah... you've been at the Kool Aid there! forced pandemics! How will that work?

                              Brexiteers never made the argument well enough to bring along the Remainers. That isn't the problem for Remainers. You can't blame the losers for not getting what you wanted. It's down to the winners to implement their policies, if they can't then that is their issue, not the losers.

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                              • The price of tinfoil hats has gone through the roof since Brexit too!

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