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  • O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

    I have to say that surprisingly, i am impressed with the leadership provided by Boris and his team in the daily COVID-19 briefings, especially the new Chancellor Rishi Sunak, this guy is a revelation. Prof Chris Whitty, the government's chief medical adviser, and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance are doing a good job providing the medical & scientific aspects of the virus. I believe they all are being honest, frank and as decisive as they can be facing this dreadful world-changing virus. I just wish they would not allow the lowlife gutter press particularly the Sun, Mirror & Daily star at these briefings who ask the most bazaar and stupid questions just to try and get a headline. These are strange and frightening times unknown by pretty much most of us, almost a war-like situation but it is what it is and at times like this the leadership being shown is just what the Country needs.
    Last edited by SwalePie; 17-06-2025, 10:45 AM. Reason: Added omitted 'O/T:-' prefix. Added warning symbol. Extreme views within.

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    Well said Banjo. This is a time for getting behind the state and not an opportunity to score cheap points. After all, we are talking people’s live here.

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    • #3
      Yep. Asking how the children who are on free school meals will actually get fed if schools close for a per longed period is ridiculous. How dare they!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BanjoPie View Post
        I have to say that surprisingly, i am impressed with the leadership provided by Boris and his team in the daily COVID-19 briefings, especially the new Chancellor Rishi Sunak, this guy is a revelation. Prof Chris Whitty, the government's chief medical adviser, and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance are doing a good job providing the medical & scientific aspects of the virus. I believe they all are being honest, frank and as decisive as they can be facing this dreadful world-changing virus. I just wish they would not allow the lowlife gutter press particularly the Sun, Mirror & Daily star at these briefings who ask the most bazaar and stupid questions just to try and get a headline. These are strange and frightening times unknown by pretty much most of us, almost a war-like situation but it is what it is and at times like this the leadership being shown is just what the Country needs.
        The line from the outset has been "science-led". Obviously, this isn't an exact science and the strategy evolves in response to the data, but as long as the politicians continue to be science-led rather than media-led they should be okay. The media will respond to any shift in strategy with the usual allegations of "U-turn" and other such phrases, and they will wheel out all sorts of naysayers and second-guessers to snipe from the sidelines about how they would do things differently. However, right now the Government needs to ignore all that noise and listen to their appointed experts, who aren't guaranteed to be right all the time, but have the best chance of being so.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BanjoPie View Post
          I have to say that surprisingly, i am impressed with the leadership provided by Boris.
          Way, way premature. Without doubt it's a very complex situation, but I think you should wait and see how this pans out before any praise.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Elite_Pie View Post
            Way, way premature. Without doubt it's a very complex situation, but I think you should wait and see how this pans out before any praise.

            Typical labour losing comment, I expected no more. I just knew Jezza and Diane would have this sorted by now, shame on you Boris.

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            • #7
              For the sake of balance

              "A rescue package for working class people and communities must be implemented with the same scale and urgency as the bailout of the banks."

              "The Time of Corona is a useful reminder that the working class are the producers of ALL wealth. Parasites like Richard Branson merely live high on the backs of working people. We don’t need them. In fact to the contrary, we can’t go on with them. We have enough to carry".

              "Coronavirus casts a light on every single part of our society. We will see the best of humanity and the worst of Capitalism”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JoePass View Post
                Typical labour losing comment, I expected no more. I just knew Jezza and Diane would have this sorted by now, shame on you Boris.
                In the past 24 hours I've noticed a distinct difference between the tone and approach of Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell. McDonnell (in the interviews I've seen) has adopted a relatively statesmanlike national unity-type stance and moderated his political comment, while Corbyn has been quite sneering and surly. I don't know if it's an intentional "good cop, bad cop" strategy or just a straight difference in how they believe they should approach the issue, but McDonnell has looked the more accomplished.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jackal2 View Post
                  In the past 24 hours I've noticed a distinct difference between the tone and approach of Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell. McDonnell (in the interviews I've seen) has adopted a relatively statesmanlike national unity-type stance and moderated his political comment, while Corbyn has been quite sneering and surly. I don't know if it's an intentional "good cop, bad cop" strategy or just a straight difference in how they believe they should approach the issue, but McDonnell has looked the more accomplished.
                  Oh my god, you actually listen to a devout Marxist who wants the overthrow of Capitalism, may I suggest you ring your doctor immediately, you need medical attention.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by upthemaggies View Post
                    For the sake of balance

                    "A rescue package for working class people and communities must be implemented with the same scale and urgency as the bailout of the banks."

                    "The Time of Corona is a useful reminder that the working class are the producers of ALL wealth. Parasites like Richard Branson merely live high on the backs of working people. We don’t need them. In fact to the contrary, we can’t go on with them. We have enough to carry".

                    "Coronavirus casts a light on every single part of our society. We will see the best of humanity and the worst of Capitalism”
                    Who are these quotes from UTM?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CheltenhamPie View Post
                      Well said Banjo. This is a time for getting behind the state and not an opportunity to score cheap points. After all, we are talking people’s live here.
                      What about all the lives the last 10 years of Tory austerity has cost?

                      Now matter how well/badly the current crisis is handled, it won’t make up for those.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jackal2 View Post
                        In the past 24 hours I've noticed a distinct difference between the tone and approach of Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell. McDonnell (in the interviews I've seen) has adopted a relatively statesmanlike national unity-type stance and moderated his political comment, while Corbyn has been quite sneering and surly. I don't know if it's an intentional "good cop, bad cop" strategy or just a straight difference in how they believe they should approach the issue, but McDonnell has looked the more accomplished.
                        I've noticed this too and agree that McDonnell has appeared impressively constructive.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JoePass View Post
                          Oh my god, you actually listen to a devout Marxist who wants the overthrow of Capitalism, may I suggest you ring your doctor immediately, you need medical attention.
                          I listen to everyone.

                          I'm a Tory voter as I'm sure you know, but that doesn't stop me watching what opposition politicians do and say as a matter of interest, and if I think they're good performers I'll say so even if I don't agree with them.

                          For example I've already said on other threads that I think Lisa Nandy has by far the most potential of all the Labour leadership contenders. It doesn't mean I'll vote for her to be Prime Minister though.

                          Rishi Sunak is rightly attracting praise for his recent performances for the Conservatives, and not just from Tory supporters.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SwalePie View Post
                            I've noticed this too and agree that McDonnell has appeared impressively constructive.


                            OMG even Swale, who I thought was semi intelligent has been seduced by the anti British dark side, we have no hope with these young uns..

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BigFatPie View Post
                              What about all the lives the last 10 years of Tory austerity has cost?

                              Now matter how well/badly the current crisis is handled, it won’t make up for those.
                              Or maybe being prudent all those years has given us the means to better handle this crisis financially.

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