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Originally posted by Old_pie View PostWhat was the note the guys at the Treasury left for the Tories to pick up? With no money in the coffers at that time how would Gordon have tackled this current issue?
It is always good sense to have something in reserve for when the unexpected happens. That sometimes means going without and it was going without some things that have enabled me to build up a bit of a pot of emergency money which I now need as my investments are down so much that they cannot provide the income to keep me going.
1. That note was a joke, and followed a global banking crisis, which I’m sure you well know. How many of those bankers went to prison?
2. Gordon Brown was acknowledged to have handled that crisis very well, unless you have evidence to the contrary?
3. The Tory government has imposed ideological cuts on the most vulnerable people in society. Many of those people have suffered early death as a result. Indeed, life expectancy for the poorest in this country is going down for the first time in a generation. How did you suffer from austerity?
4. As Alexei Sayle said, austerity is the idea that the financial crash was caused by there being too many libraries in Wolverhampton.Last edited by BigFatPie; 17-03-2020, 09:43 PM.
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Big fan of science are you Jackal?Originally posted by jackal2 View PostThe line from the outset has been "science-led". Obviously, this isn't an exact science and the strategy evolves in response to the data, but as long as the politicians continue to be science-led rather than media-led they should be okay. The media will respond to any shift in strategy with the usual allegations of "U-turn" and other such phrases, and they will wheel out all sorts of naysayers and second-guessers to snipe from the sidelines about how they would do things differently. However, right now the Government needs to ignore all that noise and listen to their appointed experts, who aren't guaranteed to be right all the time, but have the best chance of being so.
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I see Banjo is impressed by, among other things, Boris's leadership and Richard Branson. Not the sharpest thingy in the doofer, are you, Banjo?
To be fair, Boris has done all right thus far, but as my co-conspirator and Snobhead Elite says, it's too early to say whether his leadership has been a success. Basically, he's handed over the lead to 'the scientists' which means that if things go 'tits up' he can claim it was no fault of his. However, he has abandoned pantomime mode and managed to keep a straight face and give a credible impersonation of someone who gives a s h i t. However, I do note that Risky Sunup failed to address renters and the poor in society as part of his redress package yesterday.
Banjo, check out Tom Bower's biography of Richard Branson. The man is an a r s e (Branson, not Bower) whose entrepreneurialism owes its success to leeching off the taxpayer, sucking up money from the public sector. He also comes over as not a nice man; someone who owes a great deal to mummy and thought nothing of urinating on those who served him loyally.
Your vision of RB as a man with a mission to create jobs is a romantic delusion.
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We are already self isolating here in W. Bridg4d, my own health issues & of course Mrs Bridg4d is now on Oral Chemo for six months after her recent successful operation for Bowel Cancer, her immune system currently dictates that we would not have been socialising in the current circumstances anyway.Originally posted by JoePass View PostTypical labour losing comment, I expected no more. I just knew Jezza and Diane would have this sorted by now, shame on you Boris.
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That is probably bought about because they are in that group of the over 70's or very close to it and anticipate that a change of attitude or outlook will ensure they manage to receive the appropriate treatment, whatever that might be, I suspect.Originally posted by jackal2 View PostIn the past 24 hours I've noticed a distinct difference between the tone and approach of Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell. McDonnell (in the interviews I've seen) has adopted a relatively statesmanlike national unity-type stance and moderated his political comment, while Corbyn has been quite sneering and surly. I don't know if it's an intentional "good cop, bad cop" strategy or just a straight difference in how they believe they should approach the issue, but McDonnell has looked the more accomplished.
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Good luck to the pair of you Bridg4d. Hope you've got people to help you out.Originally posted by Bridg4d_Pie_ View PostWe are already self isolating here in W. Bridg4d, my own health issues & of course Mrs Bridg4d is now on Oral Chemo for six months after her recent successful operation for Bowel Cancer, her immune system currently dictates that we would not have been socialising in the current circumstances anyway.
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The Grauniad - 2005Originally posted by BigFatPie View Posthttps://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN1XV0ZN
1. That note was a joke, and followed a global banking crisis, which I’m sure you well know. How many of those bankers went to prison?
2. Gordon Brown was acknowledged to have handled that crisis very well, unless you have evidence to the contrary?
3. The Tory government has imposed ideological cuts on the most vulnerable people in society. Many of those people have suffered early death as a result. Indeed, life expectancy for the poorest in this country is going down for the first time in a generation. How did you suffer from austerity?
4. As Alexei Sayle said, austerity is the idea that the financial crash was caused by there being too many libraries in Wolverhampton.
Kenneth Clarke: In Washington a week ago, Gordon Brown had an ill-tempered exchange with IMF staff because they said that he needed to raise taxes or cut spending to put the public finances in order.
Oh, and was Brown the guy who said "I'm going to sell gold" triggering a price drop as investors saw a bargain on the horizon. Very clever - not. Ideological idiots who'd milk a cow to death instead of growing a herd.
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On a similar note:Originally posted by Old_pie View PostOh, and was Brown the guy who said "I'm going to sell gold" triggering a price drop as investors saw a bargain on the horizon. Very clever - not. Ideological idiots who'd milk a cow to death instead of growing a herd.
"Margaret Thatcher squandered billions from North Sea oil on a short-term consumer boom when she should have invested it, Lord Heseltine told Holyrood last night. The former defence secretary said the focus on personal consumption, fuelled by tax breaks, was a key failing of the “Thatcher philosophy”. He said: “This country over consumes and under invests. If I have a criticism, which I do, of the Thatcher philosophy... they had the incredible windfall of North Sea oil and basically it was spent on consumer boom".
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