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O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]
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No objective truth is not the way you would write it, but that is my way of summarising the many times you have dropped in on a thread where people are discussing an issue, or a quote, or a statistic, or a governmentmal body, or whatever, and said that there is no point discussing things and sharing sources to back up your point of view as everyone only believes what confirms their biases anyway.
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To be fair to i961, Driller, I'm pretty sure those posts about media objectivity being an impossible target was Jackal and not him.Originally posted by drillerpie View PostNo objective truth is not the way you would write it, but that is my way of summarising the many times you have dropped in on a thread where people are discussing an issue, or a quote, or a statistic, or a governmentmal body, or whatever, and said that there is no point discussing things and sharing sources to back up your point of view as everyone only believes what confirms their biases anyway.
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Jackal said that in a more sophisticated way. I961 doesn't go into that much detail, but does what I described in my last post.Originally posted by sidders View PostTo be fair to i961, Driller, I'm pretty sure those posts about media objectivity being an impossible target was Jackal and not him.
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Well, if anyone is still 'impressed with the leadership' after the big policy statement on the next step on tackling coronavirus from Boris just now, they must either live on a different planet or be Soccerman or seriouspie. What a load of vague and ambiguous bullsh!t. What does "Stay alert" even mean in real terms? He might as well have said "we don't really know what to do next, so make your own minds up but don't blame us if it all goes tits up". Still, he did a lot of dramatic clenched fist and arm waving stuff, so that will convince most of his arse lickers on here.
Just when we need strong and decisive leadership, we are being run by this dithering buffoon.
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Well, which part didn’t You understand?
It sounded perfectly clear, succinct and appropriate to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. Of course, if you are anti Conservative, anti Johnson and/or good at standing on the sidelines & shouting the odds you might struggle with it all.
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Well, I didn't see that coming.Originally posted by Elite_Pie View PostWell, if anyone is still 'impressed with the leadership' after the big policy statement on the next step on tackling coronavirus from Boris just now, they must either live on a different planet or be Soccerman or seriouspie. What a load of vague and ambiguous bullsh!t. What does "Stay alert" even mean in real terms? He might as well have said "we don't really know what to do next, so make your own minds up but don't blame us if it all goes tits up". Still, he did a lot of dramatic clenched fist and arm waving stuff, so that will convince most of his arse lickers on here.
Just when we need strong and decisive leadership, we are being run by this dithering buffoon.
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Although Boris cannot say it directly, I think the Government's position reflects the reality on the ground, that the public themselves were beginning to loosen the lockdown. I've noticed a definite increase in the number of people out and about and the amount of traffic on the roads in the last 7 to 14 days, which suggests that folk have reached the limit of tight social isolation they will tolerate, be that wise or unwise.
Governments can pass all the laws they wish and give police the power to enforce them, but ultimately our country is governed and policed by consensus, and the mood of the population dictates the direction of policy far more than would be the case in a country like, say, China.Last edited by jackal2; 10-05-2020, 07:34 PM.
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So kindly explain the clarity to me in this bit - "Those who could not work from home would now be encouraged to return to work - but they should avoid using public transport to get there if possible". How clear and succinct is "encouraged" to return to work? How clear and succinct is "avoid using public transport if possible"? Do they turn up to work in the morning or not? How clear and succinct is giving advice as the UK Prime Minister that other the leaders of other UK countries openly disagree with?Originally posted by Pies4u View PostWell, which part didn’t You understand?
It sounded perfectly clear, succinct and appropriate to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. Of course, if you are anti Conservative, anti Johnson and/or good at standing on the sidelines & shouting the odds you might struggle with it all.
Apart from that, thanks for proving me right about his arse lickers being impressed.
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Well, I certainly didn't see that reply coming.Originally posted by Elite_Pie View PostSo kindly explain the clarity to me in this bit - "Those who could not work from home would now be encouraged to return to work - but they should avoid using public transport to get there if possible". How clear and succinct is "encouraged" to return to work? How clear and succinct is "avoid using public transport if possible"? Do they turn up to work in the morning or not? How clear and succinct is giving advice as the UK Prime Minister that other the leaders of other UK countries openly disagree with?
Apart from that, thanks for proving me right about his arse lickers being impressed.
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I agree with that, I've sensed the same. The point I'm making is that if this is the case, should the government stick to the "Stay home" message to err on the side of caution, or release something very vague that could be interpreted as "do what you want, but stay alert".Originally posted by jackal2 View PostAlthough Boris cannot say it directly, I think the Government's position reflects the reality on the ground, that the public themselves were beginning to loosen the lockdown. I've noticed a definite increase in the number of people out and about and the amount of traffic on the roads in the last 7 to 14 days, which suggests that folk have reached the limit of tight social isolation they will tolerate, be that wise or unwise.
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