O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[hissingdwarf]

This '100 backers minimum' thing will certainly narrow the field. Sunak should manage it, Johnson might, Mordaunt could struggle. Wallace is the one person who might unify the party to a degree, but he doesn't seem bothered. That leaves a nightmare scenario of Sunak and Johnson being put to the members. The members f@cked up big time with Truss, who's to say they won't do the same with Johnson?

Brady has put a couple of solid hurdles in to try and discourage Johnson imo.
Firstly, as you say, the 100 threshold. That’s high. So for a disgraced PM whose own party pulled him down, he would struggle to get 100, but might.
Mordaunt and Sunak will.

The second hurdle is the member voting. If, and only if, two or more candidates get the 100, bearing in mind there will only be a maximum of 3, an immediate online vote to the Tory members. Basically the blue and grey rinse brigade. Now we know fools like Suckerman can operate a computer (just) but there’ll be lots of right wing members who would vote for Boris, but haven’t got the nouse to do so in such a short order time frame. So that goes against him. He’s got no chance of standing unopposed so the likely answer is Sunak or Mordaunt, with Sunak probably edging it.
Another clueless toff who thinks because he instigated Furlough, he’s now half way there to being a socialist so has wide spectrum appeal.
Oh dear.

[hissingdwarf]

And let’s not forget the irony of the fact it’ll be an online ballot…when the Tories made it illegal to use online balloting for strike ballots, due to “apparent security concerns.” Post only…

[jackal2]

I’m nowhere near as qualified as a lot of people on here to overly comment but have took more interest the last couple of years. All I have surmised is basically there’s not a lot of talented people in politics, a lot of backstabbing and thus I’d imagine a lot of MPs would have literally anyone in power if it meant it was the only way they’d stay in power.

You do yourself down unnecessarily, Matt. You've pretty much summed the problem up in two sentences.

[BigFatPie]

It’s nice to know the people who brought us Cameron, Brexit, May, Johnson, and Truss will be confidently giving us the benefit of their expertise and deciding the next PM as well. What can go wrong?

[jackal2]

I'm backing Larry the Cat. I reckon he'd feel at home at the Commons Despatch Box. Pussies in front of him and rats and mice behind him.

Trying to lead the major political parties these days is like trying to herd cats, so he'd be well qualified.

[Jampie]

As an Australian, seeing the UK doing the leader merry-go-round instead of us is a nice change

[BigFatPie]

And let’s not forget the irony of the fact it’ll be an online ballot…when the Tories made it illegal to use online balloting for strike ballots, due to “apparent security concerns.” Post only…

Come on now, you don’t seriously expect Tories to abide by the same standards they arbitrarily set for other people do you?

[ForeignLegion]

As an Australian, seeing the UK doing the leader merry-go-round instead of us is a nice change

As laughably inept as the pollies are down here, the UK has taken things to a completely new level. Astonishing that these people actually get paid money.

[the_anticlough]

Brady has put a couple of solid hurdles in to try and discourage Johnson imo.
Firstly, as you say, the 100 threshold. That’s high. So for a disgraced PM whose own party pulled him down, he would struggle to get 100, but might.
Mordaunt and Sunak will.

The second hurdle is the member voting. If, and only if, two or more candidates get the 100, bearing in mind there will only be a maximum of 3, an immediate online vote to the Tory members. Basically the blue and grey rinse brigade. Now we know fools like Suckerman can operate a computer (just) but there’ll be lots of right wing members who would vote for Boris, but haven’t got the nouse to do so in such a short order time frame. So that goes against him. He’s got no chance of standing unopposed so the likely answer is Sunak or Mordaunt, with Sunak probably edging it.
Another clueless toff who thinks because he instigated Furlough, he’s now half way there to being a socialist so has wide spectrum appeal.
Oh dear.

Well, there's 357 of them I think, with all of them having an interest you'd imagine 3 candidates would get 100+
But I think the right will have lost their nerve after Truss bombed and I can see them joining Pfeffel's groupies and backing him. That should be well over the threshold.
The rest of them will have a choice between Mordaunt and Sunak, I think they'll switch to Mordaunt as the best chance of stopping him at the membership vote.
It's sickening how things are going to fall for him. But many MPs will defect, drop the whip, stand down as MPs and the shenanigans, scandals and overall disfunction will start again. Very grim.

[drillerpie]

Good that she's gone, bad that we'll have another leader chosen by a very small percentage of the population.

I'm very glad to see a few posters recognising that it's time to stop seeing politics like football and cheering on one team come what may. We are living in very difficult times and it is very important that we have a serious, competent person in charge, surrounded by serious competent people in his cabinet.

We haven't had that for quite a while now. The last two PMs have just surrounded themselves with cronies because they feared anyone capable would be disloyal. It's hard to overstate how dangerous that is. You don't necessarily get many chances to come back from that.

We've got a hot war in Europe, a looming cold war against a large block of authoritarian countries whose stated aim is to weaken the West. Manufacturing of even the most critical goods is outsourced. Our energy supplies are fragile. There is a pretty serious recession on the way whomever the next PM is.

The only thing we can do is get a serious person with a long term vision who can bring us out of the recession in the best shape possible, rather than focusing on protecting his or her career or worrying about tomorrow's papers.

[i961pie]

They'll not be an election, Labours MASSIVE loss at the last one means the Tory's have too big a majority for one to be forced and there's no way they'll call one. Anyway it's not what we need for Parliament to be shut down for months in order to have one.

They won't call an election they never do. Both parties are guilty of it, When Thatcher was kicked out Major took over and when Cameron resigned May was appointed. In 1976 Wilson retired and Sunny Jim took over and Gordon Brown took over from Blair, non of those were elected by the people at first.

[magpie_mania]

The Johnson bandwagon is gaining pace.

They seem to be taking the 'he's the only one with a mandate'.

This morning I have seen / heard interviews with 3 MPs, all of whom support Boris. In addition, JRM and Dorries make the news because they are calling for him back. Not a lot about other candidates.

I am afraid that I think the media want him back because it will make for more juicy stories.

[queenslandpie]

The Johnson bandwagon is gaining pace.

They seem to be taking the 'he's the only one with a mandate'.

This morning I have seen / heard interviews with 3 MPs, all of whom support Boris. In addition, JRM and Dorries make the news because they are calling for him back. Not a lot about other candidates.

I am afraid that I think the media want him back because it will make for more juicy stories.

Will certainly make for a juicy story when the Conservative party loses the next general election by a record margin to an opposition which itself is an absolute crock of the proverbial. It's going to be decades before UK politics and the UK as a nation sorts itself out into a modicum of respectability again. Still the exchange rate is rather good for my trip next year.

[countygump]

I am afraid that I think the media want him back because it will make for more juicy stories.

You're prob right. Truss resigned because she crashed the economy. Bojo resigned over a slice of Birthday cake and a few rolls of wallpaper, seems fair. This time they'll get him for eating a Mars Bar in a public place no doubt. If I were advising him, I'll tell him not to bother, tain't worth the hassle. Let Richie Rich or Penny Dreadful have a go. Give the Tories their due, they must be the most democratic party, EVER, cos everyone has a turn at being leader.

[Elite_Pie]

As laughably inept as the pollies are down here, the UK has taken things to a completely new level. Astonishing that these people actually get paid money.

For her shambolic 44 day stint Liz Truss will be entitled to a £19,000 pay off, and an annual allowance of £115,000 for LIFE! If she lives as long as the queen, she could claim over five and a half million pounds from the taxpayer.

Nice work if you can get it.