O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[GranthamPie]

Sickening the amount of crap and litter everywhere… we went to Gran Canaria in January and the difference between there and here is unbelievable…

We drove from Cardiff airport on our return and every single major road between Cardiff and Newark was strewn with litter… fecking knee deep in parts. You don’t notice it in the summer as the grass and vegetation hides it all. It would take decades to clean up… there must be hundreds and millions of tonnes of it.

This country is fast becoming a real schit hole.

[Jeekay56]

It's the fast food litter that gets me. What sort of scum throws bags of fast food litter out the car window as they drive along?

[queenslandpie]

Exactly the same sentiment here. Nothing seemed to work, quality of 'food' very poor, everything in a packet, services dire, litter everywhere. Seems like a race to the bottom in every area. Each time I return I feel less inclined to ever live there again. France has it's issues, bureaucracy, racisim, small-mindedness but there would be riots on the streets if it every became like UK now.

Yes I did notice that. And constant radio adverts offering debt relief stuff. A race to the bottom indeed. I will go back to see my ageing parents again next year but I will never live in the UK again. It's a major downgrade on my current lifestyle.

[TSANHO]

Wholly disagree.

I can only assume those saying this country is going to the dogs haven’t travelled very far, and that isn’t meant as a criticism. The roads, litter, corruption, environment, state of living, health care and social support around much of the globe is not a patch on the UK, not even close.

As far as patriotism goes, I’m not much of a tub thumper, but the UK has it good…very good. I know we have our problems but it is hard to see how good we have it without seeing much of the world….I love coming home to see how green the country is compared to a lot of other places. How civilised and accepting we largely are as a country can be seen as a weakness to some, but it is one of our greatest strengths.

Every country has its own percentage of Neanderthals who care about nothing, but they aren’t, or shouldn’t be, the face of a nation.

[queenslandpie]

Wholly disagree.

I can only assume those saying this country is going to the dogs haven’t travelled very far, and that isn’t meant as a criticism. The roads, litter, corruption, environment, state of living, health care and social support around much of the globe is not a patch on the UK, not even close.

As far as patriotism goes, I’m not much of a tub thumper, but the UK has it good…very good. I know we have our problems but it is hard to see how good we have it without seeing much of the world….I love coming home to see how green the country is compared to a lot of other places. How civilised and accepting we largely are as a country can be seen as a weakness to some, but it is one of our greatest strengths.

Every country has its own percentage of Neanderthals who care about nothing, but they aren’t, or shouldn’t be, the face of a nation.

I have travelled a reasonable amount ( over 35 countries) and major pot holes on motorways in a first world country is shameful. I would expect it in Vietnam. I don't understand the comment about "how green our country is". There is 1000's of miles of green in India, China even Russia. I do agree on civilisation and acceptance. We also get the fast food littering here but not on the scale of the UK. It's shameful that it happens on that scale. Anyone who does it and gets caught should be publicly shamed and made to clear it up with a toothbrush. Perhaps the biggest pointer is that everything is getting worse. Health Care being the most obvious one. It is a dangerous path for such a major economy.

[upthemaggies]

[drillerpie]

Ahah nice.

Bet you could sell them to hipsters for 50 quid a pop if anyone can be arsed to get decent ones made up.

[Old_pie]

and you could pick 23 different items and get a completely different result! - you can make some stats do what you want them to.

You surely are not suggesting that the "verified by BBC" article is biased TOWARDS the Tories are you?

[BigFatPie]

If only we had known that Boris Johnson was a duplicitous, lying, self serving piece of filth and that Brexit and his Tory government was always going to be a disaster, somehow the nightmare of the last 7 years could have been avoided.

[SwalePie]

If only we had known that Boris Johnson was a duplicitous, lying, self serving piece of filth and that Brexit and his Tory government was always going to be a disaster, somehow the nightmare of the last 7 years could have been avoided.

If only someone had mentioned it in time eh?

[Old_pie]

If only someone had mentioned it in time eh?

Maybe some though that a leopard could change its spots especially after reaching the top. Nature had other ideas. And just as worryingly he doesn't seem to get it, but neither does Trump. There are some pretty crap "world" leaders out there.



The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Winston Churchill

[Elite_Pie]

If only we had known that Boris Johnson was a duplicitous, lying, self serving piece of filth.

So one lying, cowardly hypocrite gets what he deserves. Let's hope the other one gets the same.

I'm talking about Trump of course.

[JoePass]

So one lying, cowardly hypocrite gets what he deserves. Let's hope the other one gets the same.

I'm talking about Trump of course.

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

[lunaspie]

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

Time for bed,said Zebedee.

[Elite_Pie]

Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

It must be quite tiring watching your beloved Tories tear each other apart.

I'm loving it!