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  • Its interesting to note that any politician other than President Rapist making those comments so soon after a terrible accident would be forced to resign or be looking at the 25th amendment. Hes just judged by such different standards to everyone else.

    I see the wackos blame DEI for everything currently, not that long ago it was Critical Race Theory how quickly times change.

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    • Originally posted by Elite_Pie View Post
      You just don't get it do you, you're still a million miles away. It's not about the rights, wrongs or possible causes of this, it's about a President trying to make political capital of a tragic incident. Your tongue is so far up Trump's arse I doubt you'll ever get it.
      Anyone defending Trump?s comments on this should hang their head in shame.

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      • The majority response of the US public - if it can be measured - to Trump's comments will be illustrative of where the country is right now. There'll always be a hard core minority who will follow him anywhere no matter where that leads. But if all Trump voters fall in behind his position on this then it suggests the country is a lot closer to the likes of Russia and North Korea than we realised.

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        • Originally posted by Elite_Pie View Post
          You just don't get it do you, you're still a million miles away. It's not about the rights, wrongs or possible causes of this, it's about a President trying to make political capital of a tragic incident. Your tongue is so far up Trump's arse I doubt you'll ever get it.
          You are a very angry person who turns to abuse when you don't get your own way. Bit of a pattern there.

          What I get is that, Trump has said for a while that there are issues with the recruiting process at the FAA. When there are problems with recruiting, i.e. you recruit the wrong people, it can cause issues, sometimes catastrophic issues.

          It's easy for someone who never flies anywhere to say lets all sit around, sing kumbaya and see if we can come to an amicable agreement and then do a press conference where someone stands at the pulpit, with twenty diverse employees/colleagues stood behind them, nodding while the speech is made to say errors were made, but we won't make them in the future.

          For me, if a problem has been previously raised and not fixed, I want someone to stand up immediately and say, this ongoing, previously highlighted issue could have been what was a contributing factor to the accident and we have to investigate it now.

          This is not an issue that he has just talked about today. In fact he is currently signing an act that was drawn up on the 22nd January about this very thing.

          Just like he talked about the lack of action from FEMA in North Carolina and Georgia and then in Florida right after the two hurricanes - lets wait for an inquiry.

          Just like he talked about no water in fire hydrants and lack of qualified fire fighters in Los Angeles - lets wait for an enquiry.

          He got immediate emergency action in all of those catastrophes, rather than waiting for the Democrat government to act, which would have taken months.

          I think you're used to the lightening pace of Keir Starmer. The only thing he acts quickly on is locking up protestors who don't believe the same way as him.

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          • Originally posted by magpie_mania View Post
            Anyone defending Trump?s comments on this should hang their head in shame.
            Late night for the NCM Collective of Comrades isn't it?

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            • Originally posted by Lullapie View Post
              You are a very angry person who turns to abuse when you don't get your own way. Bit of a pattern there.

              What I get is that, Trump has said for a while that there are issues with the recruiting process at the FAA. When there are problems with recruiting, i.e. you recruit the wrong people, it can cause issues, sometimes catastrophic issues.

              It's easy for someone who never flies anywhere to say lets all sit around, sing kumbaya and see if we can come to an amicable agreement and then do a press conference where someone stands at the pulpit, with twenty diverse employees/colleagues stood behind them, nodding while the speech is made to say errors were made, but we won't make them in the future.

              For me, if a problem has been previously raised and not fixed, I want someone to stand up immediately and say, this ongoing, previously highlighted issue could have been what was a contributing factor to the accident and we have to investigate it now.

              This is not an issue that he has just talked about today. In fact he is currently signing an act that was drawn up on the 22nd January about this very thing.

              Just like he talked about the lack of action from FEMA in North Carolina and Georgia and then in Florida right after the two hurricanes - lets wait for an inquiry.

              Just like he talked about no water in fire hydrants and lack of qualified fire fighters in Los Angeles - lets wait for an enquiry.

              He got immediate emergency action in all of those catastrophes, rather than waiting for the Democrat government to act, which would have taken months.

              I think you're used to the lightening pace of Keir Starmer. The only thing he acts quickly on is locking up protestors who don't believe the same way as him.
              So do you agree with his comments? A straight yes or no is all that is needed.

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              • Originally posted by ThePieWhoCameIn View Post
                The majority response of the US public - if it can be measured - to Trump's comments will be illustrative of where the country is right now. There'll always be a hard core minority who will follow him anywhere no matter where that leads. But if all Trump voters fall in behind his position on this then it suggests the country is a lot closer to the likes of Russia and North Korea than we realised.
                What I find interesting about popularity, is that it is the same pollsters who said that it was neck and neck in the US Election, are saying that Trump's popularity is a record low.

                I don't know, I might be and could be very wrong, but the people I met in the US seem extremely happy and positive about Trump and the feedback I have currently is that he is doing everything he promised prior to the election - so the people who voted for him are getting what they voted for. In democracy terms, it's called a Mandate.

                Just like in the UK - you vote for someone and all you can ask is that they do what they say they are going to do in the election run-up.

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                • Originally posted by Lullapie View Post
                  What I find interesting about popularity, is that it is the same pollsters who said that it was neck and neck in the US Election, are saying that Trump's popularity is a record low.

                  I don't know, I might be and could be very wrong, but the people I met in the US seem extremely happy and positive about Trump and the feedback I have currently is that he is doing everything he promised prior to the election - so the people who voted for him are getting what they voted for. In democracy terms, it's called a Mandate.

                  Just like in the UK - you vote for someone and all you can ask is that they do what they say they are going to do in the election run-up.
                  Well twisted. The post you have quoted is about people’s reactions to his position on this, not him generally.

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                  • Originally posted by magpie_mania View Post
                    So do you agree with his comments? A straight yes or no is all that is needed.
                    I agree 100% with his comments. Is this what you are referring too:

                    With regards to the FAA.

                    "Brilliant people have to be in those positions,"

                    "A group within the FAA determined that the workforce was too white, then they had concerted efforts to get the administration to change that and to change it immediately," Trump said. "This was in the Obama administration.?

                    Taken from The Hill - which can't be construed as a media outlet that makes Trump look good.

                    He tried to fix it in his last term, but was blocked by what the Republicans call the 'Dark State'.

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                    • Originally posted by Lullapie View Post
                      You are a very angry person who turns to abuse when you don't get your own way. Bit of a pattern there.
                      Yaaaaaawn. You are still avoiding the point of my posts, I wonder why? Do you think it's right that in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy the most powerful person in the world starts conspiracy theories rather than express genuine condolences? You've not said a single word against it, and I doubt you will. That says a lot about you.

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                      • Originally posted by magpie_mania View Post
                        Well twisted. The post you have quoted is about people?s reactions to his position on this, not him generally.
                        I don't normally see you on here scrutinising every comment that each political leader makes and then saying that they are bad leaders because of it.

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                        • Originally posted by Lullapie View Post
                          I don't know, I might be and could be very wrong, but the people I met in the US seem extremely happy and positive about Trump and the feedback I have currently is that he is doing everything he promised prior to the election - so the people who voted for him are getting what they voted for.

                          What? The people you meet always agree with you and tell you what you want to hear?

                          Do you know how pathetic you sound?

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                          • Originally posted by Lullapie View Post
                            What I find interesting about popularity, is that it is the same pollsters who said that it was neck and neck in the US Election, are saying that Trump's popularity is a record low.
                            It is not about popularity. It is about whether, on this specific issue, the majority of people can be persuaded that the nature and timing of the comments are perfectly fine and not an affront to common decency, irrespective of any overriding policy aims.
                            If they are so persuaded, or they simply can't separate this issue from the anti-woke culture war, then that suggests there has been some level of psychological 'capture' of the electorate, in a way we see with Putin and Kim.

                            What that means for geopolitics long term is anybody's guess.

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                            • Originally posted by Elite_Pie View Post
                              Yaaaaaawn. You are still avoiding the point of my posts, I wonder why? Do you think it's right that in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy the most powerful person in the world starts conspiracy theories rather than express genuine condolences? You've not said a single word against it, and I doubt you will. That says a lot about you.
                              What are you talking about? The one thing I don't do is avoid made-up 'points' you make. I ask you for proof and then get abusive.

                              It isn't a conspiracy theory. Why don't you call me an anti-vaxxer while you're at it? Another one of your childish name-calling tactics.

                              Read the previous posts. It was an issue that was identified in Trump's first term. There were problems at the FAA that was leading to safety issues in the US aviation industry. Due to the hiring practices of the FAA peoples' lives were in danger. Trump grounded the Boeing Max fleet after FAA wanted to discuss the failings of the fleet more.

                              Trump then wanted to replace the senior management of the FAA, but was undermined by US career-civil servants. He didn't get chance to clear out the board.

                              Trump said this time he was going to sort out the FAA and it's hiring processes. The bill was drawn up on 22nd January - over a week before the accident.

                              He alluded, after the accident, that it could have been caused by what he was trying to sort out. I really can't understand what you are saying is a conspiracy theory.

                              Don't start me on about the Laken Riley Act. Another issue that the Democrats brushed under the carpet until Trump came in.

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                              • Originally posted by Elite_Pie View Post
                                Yaaaaaawn. You are still avoiding the point of my posts, I wonder why? Do you think it's right that in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy the most powerful person in the world starts conspiracy theories rather than express genuine condolences? You've not said a single word against it, and I doubt you will. That says a lot about you.
                                He said he 100% agrees with his comments!

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