O/T:- It's all Greek to me

Hey come on. We stole those marbles fair and square. XD

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Originally Posted by SmiffyPie

Them Romans and Normandy people have a lot to answer for!!

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Well, yes... how far back into the past is reasonable? Who knows??

On the other hand, it amazes me that the USA (for instance) has never even acknowledged (let alone tried to make amends for) their near genocide against the North American native peoples. I guess if you are the ideal, perfect country (manifest destiny with a double thumbs up from the almighty, no less) you cannot admit any wrong doing almost by definition.

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Originally Posted by northpie1862

I think someone needs to find your marbles.

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Isn't it Ionic,don't you think? It's like rain on your wedding day,it's a free ride when you've already paid.

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Originally Posted by SmiffyPie

Them Romans and Normandy people have a lot to answer for!!

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Not forgetting the Spanish and Dutch

Also the Danes and Norwegians pillaging and raping.

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Originally Posted by Med Pie

Had they been left 'where they belong', they would no longer exist like so much of the Parthenon that is missing.

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"Where they belong" is matter of opinion, where they end up is summat else. Do they belong in a museum where they can be seen by all? Or will they end up in some Greek billionaire's private collection, kept away from all?

We should only give them back if the Greek postal service gives me back the 200 Euros that disappeared when it was sent for a holiday in Kefallonia. Fair do's.

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Originally Posted by Mark_Ross

Well, yes... how far back into the past is reasonable? Who knows??

On the other hand, it amazes me that the USA (for instance) has never even acknowledged (let alone tried to make amends for) their near genocide against the North American native peoples. I guess if you are the ideal, perfect country (manifest destiny with a double thumbs up from the almighty, no less) you cannot admit any wrong doing almost by definition.

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Wasn't that initially due to 'European' actions from late 15th Century onwards rather than USA which didn't come into being until 1776. So European colonizers responsible? Introduction of European diseases as well as the 'normal' hostile actions.

You're right - just how far back do we go? Human nature is to conquer land and resources for the benefit of your own people to ensure their survival.

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Originally Posted by LincsPie

Wasn't that initially due to 'European' actions from late 15th Century onwards rather than USA which didn't come into being until 1776. So European colonizers responsible? Introduction of European diseases as well as the 'normal' hostile actions.

You're right - just how far back do we go? Human nature is to conquer land and resources for the benefit of your own people to ensure their survival.

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And them injuns were themselves immigrants from North East Russia across the Bering Land Bridge and down through Alaska and Canada to America.

"Wasn't that initially due to 'European' actions from late 15th Century onwards rather than USA which didn't come into being until 1776. So European colonizers responsible? Introduction of European diseases as well as the 'normal' hostile actions."

At independence the USA was a relatively small strip on the Atlantic coast (the 13 colonies). The vast majority of genocidal attack on the native peoples is USA responsibility.