Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
I don’t see how Cocu can be blamed for the behaviour of specific adults in their own time when he is not present...no. Unless you’re also going to blame Klopp for Firmino’s drink driving and every other manager for the misdemeanours of their playing staff.

Of course Cocu cannot abdicate responsibility for poor performances...neither is he entirely responsible for them. The missing of crucial penalties and the conceding of unnecessary ones has far more to do with our league position and as far as I’m aware Cocu isn’t to blame for either of those.

The argument about footballers being overpaid prima donnas is new to this thread and not one I disagree with however your attitude of having a go at all the players - and those on here who try to remain positive - is all too symptomatic of certain Derby fans imo.

PP is a bloody awful place to play when the fans turn against you as I’m sure Roos, Keogh, Ince, Waghorn and Cyrus Christie - to name but a few - will readily testify.

The players are currently devoid of confidence and being under a barrage of criticism - some justified, some not - from supporters at the ground, on forums like this and from a certain ex player turned commentator (I use the term loosely) on Radio Derby helps no one.
What on earth are you talking about? It has always been so, a team plays badly, players make mistakes, fans express their views and thats all fans, even those of teams where you'd think they had nothing to complain about its what football is about FFS!

A manager sets the standards of behaviour, oversees the coaching, picks the team, sets the tactics of course he has responsibility for what happens on and off the pitch. Theres a difference between an individuals actions and what a group do on a club sanctioned night out.

So now fans aren't allowed to crticise or express their views either on forums like this or in the stadium for fear of upsetting the players? What poppycock, your made a big assumption that the players you name even give a toss!

I realise that being challenged is uncomfortable for you, I get the feeling that even if the world was ending you'd be saying keep positive its not the end of the world! (Oh sorry it is!).

Never mind RA you keep convincing yourself this is all going to end well its your basic right to do so.