O/T Democracy

[BigLadonOS]

**** me that's a stretch and I don't believe you could possibly think that.

I actually did think that as I watched and heard it live. Not for one second did I think his remarks were anything other than correct.

[tony260674]

I actually did think that as I watched and heard it live. Not for one second did I think his remarks were anything other than correct.

Biglad, Cummings is running the show. Everything Johnson is saying has been tested with the tory base who they are worried will vote for the brexit party. They are not in the slightest bit interested in attracting the centre like Cameron and May. I had no problem at all with the attorney general, he was feisty and combative, he criticized the opposition and the parliament itself as he should he is a tory minister but Johnson went much further. If you look back at Johnson's speeches over the past 15 years he never spoke like this before and he never spoke like this during the leadership campaign.

[BigLadonOS]

Biglad, Cummings is running the show. Everything Johnson is saying has been tested with the tory base who they are worried will vote for the brexit party. They are not in the slightest bit interested in attracting the centre like Cameron and May. I had no problem at all with the attorney general, he was feisty and combative, he criticized the opposition and the parliament itself as he should he is a tory minister but Johnson went much further. If you look back at Johnson's speeches over the past 15 years he never spoke like this before and he never spoke like this during the leadership campaign.

So your saying that Cummings new that Jo Cox was going to be held up as an example for the Labour party and told Boris what to say about it? You are on cloud nine mate.

So your saying that everything that Corbyn is saying and doing is not a strategy either. Unreal.

[tony260674]

Biglad, Boris has never been a confrontational politician, now all of a sudden he is?? It isn't always going to be specific words and 'Humbug' is very much Boris but he is being led down that path.
As for Corbyn, as I pointed out, I don't like Corbyn and won't vote Labour whilst he is leader. He is irrelevant in many ways and we'll all be much better when he is gone.

[BigLadonOS]

Biglad, Boris has never been a confrontational politician, now all of a sudden he is?? It isn't always going to be specific words and 'Humbug' is very much Boris but he is being led down that path.
As for Corbyn, as I pointed out, I don't like Corbyn and won't vote Labour whilst he is leader. He is irrelevant in many ways and we'll all be much better when he is gone.

Are you for real? He has almost everyone outside the Cons party doing everything they can to stop him doing what he wants to do in Parliament with people consistently calling him a liar and blocking him at ever juncture and you think he does not have the right to fight fire with fire.

[tony260674]

Are you for real? He has almost everyone outside the Cons party doing everything they can to stop him doing what he wants to do in Parliament with people consistently calling him a liar and blocking him at ever juncture and you think he does not have the right to fight fire with fire.

That's how Parliament works when you don't have a majority. MP's have more power because their vote is important. Boris has lost every vote he has had in the commons but every one was close. This is an emotional subject and we clearly disagree but I think there is a middle way and all the party leaders should do what they can to find it.

[gm_gm]

That's how Parliament works when you don't have a majority. MP's have more power because their vote is important. Boris has lost every vote he has had in the commons but every one was close. This is an emotional subject and we clearly disagree but I think there is a middle way and all the party leaders should do what they can to find it.

No there isnt Tony and thats the problem. you fall into one of two camps, 1) Remoaning loser who cant let go of global corporatism or 2) You are a thick northern Tw@t who doesnt know what you voted for

trying to find the middle ground wont be easy...an election however could wipe out 220 @rsewipes and we could move on, but the cowardly communist is scared to death

[BigLadonOS]

That's how Parliament works when you don't have a majority. MP's have more power because their vote is important. Boris has lost every vote he has had in the commons but every one was close. This is an emotional subject and we clearly disagree but I think there is a middle way and all the party leaders should do what they can to find it.

It all depends on how you see Brexit.