Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
This is where we're getting carried away a wee bit just a tad. Yes we need signings but Dorrans was slow and ponderous in the Championship never mind the Premiership and was completely owned by Butcher in the Derby at Dens. Why on earth should we be disappointed about missing out on him?????????

Correct, he was utter crap for most part at dens by all accounts, he has signed for his level now, he is passed his best, decent ability but not what a prem side needs..Butcher dominated the first two derbys, the one at dens especially against Dorrans, McGowan and Byrne

Yes I know he scored in the third derby, a good finish although afforded so much time to pick his spot and tbf we were pretty poor that night and way below the level we had showed prior