Yorkshire CCC Racist Row

[mickd1961]

I’ve been called Paki many many times in my life and I very much doubt it was with the same intent that someone would say Scot, Brit, Yank etc and if someone was going to call me that as a joke without negative connotations they would have to be on friendly terms with me, same thing with the aforementioned bald mate

Also Mick whether you are Indian or Pakistani it’s not the accuracy of the term that offends it’s the intent. Indians aren’t offended by the fact someone is mistaking them for a Pakistani, but by what the intent of being called Paki and the other words that come with it or are inferred

As for statute of limitations I do agree with you guys, if this fella was so upset he should have addressed it ages ago with the fella concerned or someone else. But I can understand why it’s difficult, but in that case get over it no point raising hell years later

As for Vaughn I’ve always liked him, but don’t know him obviously, but there are reports of him having said some unsavoury things and also aiming it at the fact that people were of a certain heritage and prioritising others
Now I don’t know if that happened, and to be honest it’s very easy to confuse patriotism with prejudice especially if you and others are confused with where you stand (E.g. am I Indian or British?)

Strange times, but what makes me laugh is how potential unfair treatment is easily spotted when the victim is similar to yourself

PS - Mick you can say what you want in your own house mate, just best not to say things that may cause offence when in public, can’t see why that’s an issue
You wouldn’t drive down the middle of a road and say well I feel like doing this so why can’t I?
Exactly as it may cause harm to someone right and there will be consequences for you.

BS.......some of the worst racism I’ve ever encountered was during my time as a rep for a frozen food company in the West Mids.

Regardless of you making light about Indians not being offended by mistaken for Pakistani’s that is not my experience.

They absolutely loathed each other!

The Indians routinely referred to their near neighbours as “dirty P*****”.......I can only comment on what I regularly heard.

When I moved into the sport’s trade I dealt with a well known Indian family who owned a sports wholesale business on Tame Rd in Witton, the Nathwani family.....lovely people.

They gave me a lot of help when I first set up my own business and even let me use their warehouse, I generally found the Indian people much nicer and easier to deal with but they never hid their contempt for Pakistani’s.

The worst racism I have ever personally had to deal with was at a six a side tournament on our own Hawthorns pitch about 10 years ago.

An all Pakistani heritage side from Pleck constantly abused my lads from minute one in the game even though we had an Indian lad playing for my side.

I complained to the black referee about it and he dismissively waved me away, I complained to the organisers from the club on the day and got fobbed off.

Our Indian lad was the son of a former poster on her, a guy called HS Baggie, his name was Harry Singh, a very successful businessman who lived next door to Marc Antoine Fortune by pure coincidence.

Harry came up to me after the game and put his arm around me and apologised profusely on behalf of all Asians, he was disgusted at how my lads and his own son had been treated.

He finished off by saying.....”but that’s what I expect from THAT lot”.

I accept your premise that the “P” word is used negatively though, I was really trying to establish the fact that most other nations are not a bit bothered by being abbreviated.

My own view on the whole situation is that a line needs drawing in the sand that everyone is aware of and from that point forward everyone knows that use of these terms is going to have serious repercussions.....going back 10 to 15 years is just digging for the sake of it.

Let me lighten the mood by highlighting a faux pas of my own yesterday.

I was in a business meeting with my team of solicitors and a very attractive trainee lady was taking the notes.

In the course of the conversation I used the phrase “tits up” before the light bulb went on in my head!😩😳

I immediately apologised and she laughed it off, I hope that she didn’t just laugh because she felt she had to though.

Retraining the brain isn’t easy at my time of life and for much older people but it clearly shows how easy it is to put your foot in it these days.