O/T booster jabs.

[flourbasher]

I think Kerr answered that one quite succinctly earlier in the thread.

Yes I've now seen that RP thanks

I can see why someone would employ deflection tactics but what he's actually done is swap one crisis (the party incidents) with another one (inadequate booster resources).

So either way he and his govt still appears inept and incapable of managing the situation

On the SA problems I know people who have managed to go there on holiday in the last few months and there are images on the news websites of others doing the same. How has this been allowed to happen again

[KerrAvon]

They are trying to get approval for 5-11 year olds to have the jab next.

Is this to protect them or to reduce risk of spreading it, as even with the jabs you can still spread it and can also catch it.

Who decides which illnesses and diseases get prioritised. For years we've been told 1 in 3 people will get cancer, what are the numbers for Covid and the consequences.

Vaccination for 5 to 11 year olds is really tricky as the risk of serious illness from Covid in that age group is so low that the risks from the vaccine might be greater. The counter argument is that children within that age group do come into contact with more vulnerable individuals and the vaccines do reduce the risk of transmission (or at least they did before Omicron, which is so tranmissible that all bets may now be off). In addition, every time the virus spreads and is replicated there is a risk of mutataion such as to give rise to further variants.

The prioritisation of research into illness is firstly driven by market forces. The pharmaceutical companies like to work on widespread chronic illness because that is where the money is - produce a new treatment for, say, asthma and watch the money roll in. That situation has a significant downside and explains why there have been no new classes of antibiotic coming to the market for decades (antibiotics aren't very profitable because they are increasingly rationed to try to reduce the risk of resiatant strains of bacteria developing).

The second driver for research is public sentiment. Breast cancer research, for example, is well funded in the UK because the breast cancer charities have proved remarkably adept at fund raising. Other killers, like prostrate cancer, have been left behind by comparison.

To move back towards the OP, the rapid development of 'new generation' mRNA vaccines such as Pfizer and Moderna and via a different methodolgy, Astra Zenica, holds out a lot of hope for treating other illnesses including cancer. Covid gave the development of the technology a huge boost.

[gm_gm]

Well Ive read this post 3 times now & hope all the millions of people that have had family members die of COVID & the NHS staff that’s battled with this Virus don’t read it at all.My choice I will never reply to any of your posts again. Stay safe gm. Just keep a fecking way from my door.

I'll wish you all the best then LM

[KerrAvon]

While ever he continues to listen to these useless Sage advisors who have a shocking record on predictions, Boris will get deeper in the black hole.All they can come out with are scaremongering tactics.In Germany they have taken 80 million test cases while we have taken a massive 375 million.The mainstream media tell us we have more positive cases than other countries,well obviously when we are ridiculously taking that many.Where is the opposition to all this nonsense?

Predicting the dynamics of a new illness where there are unknowns is always going to be tricky. I'm not sure that SAGE did get it wrong; they predicted a huge number of deaths if we didn't lockdown, but we did lockdown so it is impossible to say whether they were right or wrong.

I'm not sure what point you are making about testing. Should we live in ignorance? We have had very few restrictions in the UK since July 2021. Perhaps that would not have been possible without the availabililty of testing.

[gm_gm]

Some years ago I was in my local on a night when there was a real pea-super outside. Visibility was less than 50 yards. There was a guy at the bar who was drunk, well over.

When he made his excuses to leave he produced his car keys. I politely asked the landlord to phone the cops to ask them to stop what was clearly a dangerous situation. They refused.

I followed the guy outside and tried to argue with him not to get into the car. He refused and started to get aggressive, so I (much to my regret) left him to it.

I don't know if he made it home in one piece, or whether he killed/injured himself or someone else. I never found out because I stopped going to the pub.

What would you have done in my position gm?

Im not here to offer you emotional therapy MGP, it sounds as though you tried to act in this guys best interests ....file it away under you acted appropriately and tried your best

[KerrAvon]

Im not here to offer you emotional therapy MGP, it sounds as though you tried to act in this guys best interests ....file it away under you acted appropriately and tried your best

Yet another question ducked, gm?

Let's be honest for a moment, you would have ignored the evidence of your eyes and told yourself that it wasn't foggy and the bloke wasn't drunk, if it suited your mindset to do so.

[gm_gm]

Yet another question ducked, gm?

Let's be honest for a moment, you would have ignored the evidence of your eyes and told yourself that it wasn't foggy and the bloke wasn't drunk, if it suited your mindset to do so.

If that what you think run with it Kerr.

OK to answer the question, when the bloke was angry with MGP I would have apologised to him and offered to buy him another drink

[mygiddypant]

If that what you think run with it Kerr.

OK to answer the question, when the bloke was angry with MGP I would have apologised to him and offered to buy him another drink

The point to the story is that I wasn't acting in his interest, rather those who might be on the receiving end of his unsocial action. I wasn't looking for "emotional therapy" just a serious response to the second part of your advice to CAM - "If you’re scared CAM lock yourself up, don’t feck around with other people". Presumably, had you been in my position your philosophy would have been 'que sera sera'.

[gm_gm]

The point to the story is that I wasn't acting in his interest, rather those who might be on the receiving end of his unsocial action. I wasn't looking for "emotional therapy" just a serious response to the second part of your advice to CAM - "If you’re scared CAM lock yourself up, don’t feck around with other people". Presumably, had you been in my position your philosophy would have been 'que sera sera'.

Again, presume away...I don't want to get into "Im a better person than you" argument as by your own admission you would win hands down

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

Had a text message today, telling me plenty of vacancies for booster jab, at Dearne Leisure Centre at Denaby,
but we had ours already 29th October 2021.