Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post

You're hardly comparing like with like. I post very positive stuff about RB, make him MoM and yes of course there's gratitude and recognition of his achievements, he's one of the 'made men' as far as I'm concerned. We probably wouldn't understand ourselves, but pro football is an incredibly competitive, cut throat world. As we go on this upwards journey, we know that not everyone is going to make it, Vinny and Ed Francis for example. Let's hope all of our current squad can, but all clubs try to improve their squads. Then it's down to competition for places. Ideally fans will be sensitive and remain appreciative as this process plays out.
That's a very touchy feely way of saying you think he's the weakest link in the back three and would like to see him replaced. To arrive at this conclusion you must, logically, have made some negative judgements about him (assuming you didn’t pick him out of a hat at random). So why go after other people for making negative judgements about players?



Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
On the other hand we have relentless negative posting at every available opportunity. We've seen stuff like 'error prone idiot' on here, so it's even edged into mild abuse. We have testimony that this kind of negativity has seeped into the stands as well...all the makings of a scapegoating campaign for record-breaking, promotion-winning, league-status-regaining, top-of the table-sitting players. Elite thinks it's caring, I said unhinged. Well both things can be true
We really don't have relentless negativity.

Idiot is not a word I would use but if that's abuse then yes it is extremely mild.

Being top of the table is great and things are indeed going very well, and it's a great time to be a Notts fan, but it doesn't mean fans have to pretend to unsee things they can see. If we were bottom of the table would it be wrong to praise a player who had a good game in a defeat? No, of course not.

I'm afraid I don't agree with you at all here.

Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
Certain sections of the fanbase have developed certain associations. Instead of the things I just mentioned, plus NL team-of-the year, buccaneering forward play, being masterful on the ball, these fans just seem to associate and think 'mistake!!!' They could see 5 really positive pieces of play followed by a mistake and that last play would be all they want to talk about. This kind of atmosphere will actually contribute towards more mistakes!
Depends on the mistake I think. If it is a player trying some swashbuckling attacking play that doesn't come off then they'd probably be OK with it. If it's a banal unforced error they'd talk about it.

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Two final points, I'm not going to join in backing the opposition with the fouls they concede against our players who are confident enough to want to shield the ball. If they insist on ploughing into our player's back, and are not skillful enough to nick the ball away without fouling, or canny enough to just jockey and force a decision, then they deserve to be whistled for fouls every time.
Yeah obviously it's the times when the ref doesn't buy it and the opposition just run away with the ball that is the issue here.


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If anyone's got ifollow they can replay the game if they wish. So if you think a player like KC had a bad game, watch him from start to finish, see all the good stuff too and you'll probably see a performance that's pretty much in line with gaining an away point at a top ten team in a 1-1 draw. And just maybe most of the noise is down to posters who made up their minds before a ball was kicked.[/QUOTE]

Sounds to me like you're the one who has made your mind up before a ball has been kicked. You think we can kum-bay-ah our way to promotion if we just send enough good vibes to the players and gloss over any sloppy play. I disagree and thankfully so does our manager.