Macca new captain

[upthemaggies]

Not a fair metric, LW had Mansfield and Wrexham at home to boost this.

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It's totally unfair because the gate figures under Maynard include the season tickets sold when LW was in charge and due to his success. It'll be fairer to compare SM's figures next season with LW's gates Aug 23-Jan 24.

[OldBanksy]

And he’s also under contract to Notts County.
So it doesn’t matter how ambitious he is, if an offer doesn’t suit the club, he ain’t going anywhere.

So what's the need to announce the captaincy now? Even you accept Macca could be gone before a ball is kicked.

[upthemaggies]

I think that shows the severe limitations of the analysis you're doing though, as it's an absurd proposition that we are the 2nd worst run league club.

The best possible result last season was to finish 1st, which would still mean underperforming by 16 places by that measure, despite having back to back promotions and making good progress off the field.

I agree with your target of upper League 1 by the way. I just don't think you can draw the conclusions you've drawn in the short term.

It wouldn't be right to say we were the 2nd worst run club last season alone, no, Generally speaking though, consistently underachieving year in year out as opposed to a short term blip, we absolutely are among the worst run clubs. Obviously that's not just the current owners fault, but to what extent they can address that general trend remains to be seen. Last season wasn't a very encouraging sign.
In tier 5 we had nothing to compare them with. Now we have the one season in tier 4 and that was below average.

11k gates is a bit deceptive in terms of improving off the field. Relative to other clubs we've mostly sized up as a mid-table L1 club gates wise since we dropped into tier 3 in 1995. The fans have done their bit, you can't ask any more of them. It's up to whoever owns the club to step up to the plate and deliver.

[Jampie]

Our average final position since 1999/00 is 76th.
We've just finished 82nd.

Compare that position to the result before they took over?

This is the first season they've missed the playoffs. Fantastic owners so far IMO.

I'm worried about SM too, don't get me wrong. I really hope they know what they're doing with him, cos so far he has absolutely not impressed.

[northpie1862]

Massive amounts of projection here and you've clearly lost all sense of reality. The momentum and buzz was lost with the joint worst home run of results in Notts' history.

The objective of the game is to acquire points to finish as high as you can in the league table. Nobody gets to skew those facts, it's there in black & white for all to see.

If a couple of months adjusting to a new manager was enough for you to lose the buzz built over a number of years, then maybe you arent the yardstick for buzz we are looking for.

If you want to talk black and white facts (and how they show that its not all doom and gloom like you want to make us all believe):

Last season in Notts Co. History:

4th Most points in a league 2 season this century.

3rd Highest goals scored in a season this century.

Highest average attendance this century.

Funny how you can use FACTS to paint any picture you want isnt it.

[Notts78]

So what's the need to announce the captaincy now? Even you accept Macca could be gone before a ball is kicked.

Given the transfer window opens on the 14th, I’m gonna hazard a guess that it’s to let clubs sniffing around Macca, ‘he’s not for sale’. It’s also Macca’s opportunity to let clubs know that he is settled at Notts.
I think you are being overly cynical in thinking that it’s somehow a ploy to drive season ticket sales. I can’t imagine there has been a sudden surge in season ticket sales since.
Even if you are right, which I don’t think you are, then so what. Announcing your crown jewel, the man described by LW as the king of meadow lane, is a master stroke.

[durhampie]

If a couple of months adjusting to a new manager was enough for you to lose the buzz built over a number of years, then maybe you arent the yardstick for buzz we are looking for.

If you want to talk black and white facts (and how they show that its not all doom and gloom like you want to make us all believe):

Last season in Notts Co. History:

4th Most points in a league 2 season this century.

3rd Highest goals scored in a season this century.

Highest average attendance this century.

Funny how you can use FACTS to paint any picture you want isnt it.

You forgot to add the most goals conceded this century..

[upthemaggies]

If a couple of months adjusting to a new manager was enough for you to lose the buzz built over a number of years, then maybe you arent the yardstick for buzz we are looking for.

If you want to talk black and white facts (and how they show that its not all doom and gloom like you want to make us all believe):

Last season in Notts Co. History:

4th Most points in a league 2 season this century.

3rd Highest goals scored in a season this century.



Funny how you can use FACTS to paint any picture you want isnt it.

There is a limit to how selective you can be with the facts before people realise you're just desperately trying to save face after making a claim that is objectively not true. You can't finish in a below average position for the period that YOU decided to frame and say last season was, not just better, but MILES better.
Nobody goes home from Meadow Lane thinking we've won because we scored 3 goals when a below average opposition came from 3-0 down to win 4-3, do they. You'll get the odd happy clapper trying to be positive because it's the most goals we've scored in x weeks, but the majority will know full well we've chucked away the 3 points.

[OldBanksy]

Given the transfer window opens on the 14th, I’m gonna hazard a guess that it’s to let clubs sniffing around Macca, ‘he’s not for sale’. It’s also Macca’s opportunity to let clubs know that he is settled at Notts.
I think you are being overly cynical in thinking that it’s somehow a ploy to drive season ticket sales. I can’t imagine there has been a sudden surge in season ticket sales since.
Even if you are right, which I don’t think you are, then so what. Announcing your crown jewel, the man described by LW as the king of meadow lane, is a master stroke.

He is for sale at the right price. He will be happy to go if the right offer comes along. Just as LW was. I'm sure the club's, Macca's and other suitor club's positions haven't changed since the season ended.

Who knows whether he'll stay. My guess is he'll be off. I thought the same a year ago, but think it's even more likely this year.

[1955pie]

Flipping it would mean Bournemouth and Luton are the two worst run clubs, finishing around 30 places higher than where their gates say they should be, which would make no sense whatsoever.

Man Utd have just won the FA Cup and qualified for the Europa League but their fans aren't happy. Most people will understand why that is, because they're the number 1 supported club and expect their league position to closely reflect that.
Nobody was in massive shock either that the club with the lowest support, FGR, have dropped back into the NL.

So yes, Notts should be upper L1 and if the current owners can't achieve that, or at least get close to it, then they can be added to our list of failures, regardless of how 'nice' they are.

Their are some very sad, unhappy people on this board.
Have you not enjoyed the football of the last 2 or 3 seasons? It is miles and miles better than most of the dross I have had to watch over the decades.
As for last season, it was not the owners fault (nor SM's) that LW walked out on us mid season. That was absolutely the worst possible time to go.
And what about all the off the field ventures. Sound system, complete revamp on the pitch (with undersoil heating possibilities), The Nest with its' potential to considerably improve the clubs' finances.
These things are gradually moving the club forward to help provide a more enjoyable experience for "most" fans.
Slowly, slowly catchee monkey. The results will come.
If you want to look at badly run clubs, just look at their pitches, toilet facilities, refreshments etc. I am sure Durham could rattle off a very long list in no time at all.
I think we at Notts County have got something to be proud of.