Careless Red Tories

[Trickytreesreds]

Whatever the provocation? Really? Looks bad I agree, but there’s no footage of what preceded Amesbury’s probable/possible first punch.
In a previous incident Ben Stokes’ behaviour looked dreadful…then the truth came out and told a very different story.
Starmer has done all he can…for now. He’s suspended Amesbury subject to further investigation. Such investigation will be conducted by the police, not Starmer, and rightly so. It happened on Saturday and the guy had been suspended by Monday morning. What more can you expect at this stage?
If it proves to be an entirely unjustified attack I imagine Amesbury’s political career will be finished and he’ll probably go to prison…again rightly so.
Time for you and Andy to control your excitement and wait a while until the matter has been dealt with by the police/courts.

Excitement is nothing to do with it.
Video one from street level, simply showed Amesbury leaning over the victim, yelling and then walking away.
Video two, from a more raised position, now shows Amesbury, putting him on his arse (victim hands in pockets) and then following it up with several blows whilst he is on the ground.

Comparing that, to the Manchester airport video release, is like chalk and cheese.

I think the point of my comment about leaving it to the police and courts, warrents answer. How can someone involved minutely in a riot, be punished so harshly and quickly to score a political point. Yet the 2 incidents mentioned here receive comments about patience for the police and courts?

This guy is an MP, and remembering what I said of how the law works with proportional response. Warrents an immidiate, arrest for charge. The only only contention, is how much provocation occurred to instigate the incident. If he wasn't attacked, he's a dead man walking.

[ramAnag]

Excitement is nothing to do with it.
Video one from street level, simply showed Stokes leaning over the victim, yelling and then waling away.
Video two, from a more raised position, now shows Stokes, putting him on his arse (victim hands in pockets) and then following it up with several blows whilst he is on the ground.

Comparing that, to the Manchester airport video release, is like chalk and cheese.

I think the point of my comment about leaving it to the police and courts, warrents answer. How can someone involved minutely in a riot, be punished so harshly and quickly to score a political point. Yet the 2 incidents mentioned here receive comments about patience for the police and courts?

This guy is an MP, and remembering what I said of how the law works with proportional response. Warrents an immidiate, arrest for charge. The only only contention, is how much provocation occurred to instigate the incident. If he wasn't attacked, he's a dead man walking.

Nice to see you reserving judgement. Can only imagine you’ve never been on a Jury.

Excitement clearly does have something to do with it, hence your complete confusion about four different cases. Thank God it wasn’t a black MP…you’d probably have been orgasmic by now.

Calm down dear…let the law take it from here.

[Trickytreesreds]

Nice to see you reserving judgement. Can only imagine you’ve never been on a Jury.

Excitement clearly does have something to do with it, hence your complete confusion about four different cases. Thank God it wasn’t a black MP…you’d probably have been orgasmic by now.

Calm down dear…let the law take it from here.

I have been on a jury know all, twice. The second occasion was voluntary,#
As for the black jibe, thats actually quite offensive, but fits in with a left wing defense mechamism along with nazi/racist/little englander/gammon/ xenophobe/ etc So I shouldn't be surprised

[ramAnag]

I have been on a jury know all, twice. The second occasion was voluntary,#
As for the black jibe, thats actually quite offensive, but fits in with a left wing defense mechamism along with nazi/racist/little englander/gammon/ xenophobe/ etc So I shouldn't be surprised

How did I guess you’d be the one to ‘volunteer’? As long as you say ‘if he wasn’t attacked, he’s a dead man walking’ I’d query your fitness for jury service.
Please note…I haven’t ever called you a Nazi/racist/gammon…the other two I’m not so sure of tbh. Could well have at some point. ‘Left wing defense mechamism’…what’s one of those then?

[Trickytreesreds]

How did I guess you’d be the one to ‘volunteer’? As long as you say ‘if he wasn’t attacked, he’s a dead man walking’ I’d query your fitness for jury service.
Please note…I haven’t ever called you a Nazi/racist/gammon…the other two I’m not so sure of tbh. Could well have at some point. ‘Left wing defense mechamism’…what’s one of those then?

YOU SEE, YOU EXPOSE YOURSELF AGAIN.

After my first jury service, i received a letter asking if I'd like to be on an available list. I said yes, after finding the first 2 week experiance fascinating.
As for your jibe at dead man walking, you obviously don't have a clue about proportional response.
But don't let that stop your predjudice. Like yourself. I too have been through all the back ground checks and family checks to be eligible.
I also own a fire arm license, which means I have many more checks on my suitablity than yourself, where fitness for service is concerned.

If you haven't cottoned on to your left wing defence mechanism yet, I really am not surprised.

[ramAnag]

If you haven't cottoned on to your left wing defence mechanism yet, I really am not surprised.

…and if you look really carefully you’ll find it’s you who hasn’t quite ‘cottoned on’…but well done, at the second attempt. Bye, better things to do.

[swaledale]

How did I guess you’d be the one to ‘volunteer’? As long as you say ‘if he wasn’t attacked, he’s a dead man walking’ I’d query your fitness for jury service.
Please note…I haven’t ever called you a Nazi/racist/gammon…the other two I’m not so sure of tbh. Could well have at some point. ‘Left wing defense mechamism’…what’s one of those then?

Amazing, what has this guy not done? Well apart from offer up a point of view he hasn't gleaned from some dodgy right wing internet grifter that is!

[Trickytreesreds]

Amazing, what has this guy not done? Well apart from offer up a point of view he hasn't gleaned from some dodgy right wing internet grifter that is!

Never done jury service Swale?