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Thread: The way forward.

  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolmorgan View Post
    If you X-rayed Rotherham Utd the doctors findings would be you look decent on the outside but boy you look bad on the inside. T/S has wasted years trying to achieve something we could never achieve he has built no foundations no long term plans & S/E is definitely not the manager to change things never as been & never will be.
    100% A club with lots of empty promises but no plan to deliver.

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    Is it more difficult now than it's been previously while we've been at the NYS to sign younger players with some sell-on value or the management/recruitment set-up we have now that's the main reason why we aren't?

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    We need to get back to having a strong academy and bringing our own players through. Veteran last chance men have deflected us from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocksgloves1 View Post
    We need to get back to having a strong academy and bringing our own players through. Veteran last chance men have deflected us from this.
    Absolutely agree. Also get scouting in poorer / developing countries across the world, for missed young talent to develop here.
    We increasingly cannot compete with the ludicrous money madness here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Miller View Post
    Absolutely agree. Also get scouting in poorer / developing countries across the world, for missed young talent to develop here.
    We increasingly cannot compete with the ludicrous money madness here.


    Like I said this management set-up never bring young players through so if we are going to bring more of our own through needs one that does.

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    Every player will be grateful to come here when no other club wants them..those same players will leave to go elsewhere when the moneys right..its life..but if the money was right here, theyd stay..we cant compete.. simple as...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derbymiller View Post
    1. Use january and the summer to clear out players that are eating our budget and/or have a poor availability %
    2. Only allow SE to bring in young players either loans or ones we can sell on in the future. make him manage young players instead of older experienced pros
    3. Get a COO in that understands the football industry and let PD go
    4. Look to have better knowledge in the club to deal with player contracts
    5. TS to do what the original plan was and build a better quality training facility (highlight of last season TS interview was how he bragged about giving the players a communal can**** at Roundwood)
    6. Find a manager/coach that has more modern ideas to take over when we part company with SE, which shouldn't be any later than may. He will not get us competing for a playoff so the season will be a right off. he should go earlier if we are still in a relegation battle in the new year
    that will do for a starter, and yes i know none of that will happen
    Nails on the heads, Derby.
    As with some other op points.

    A lot is hidden behind this lack of money nonsense. Warne managed this division better than anyone else during nys years.
    Lack of money only really applies to when we have gone up?.but again, warne 6 minutes away from it at cardiff, and we scraped it twice other times.

    Under ronnie we kept up quite a while, maybe a different era, but we still had the money disparity then.

    It?s all about how the club is managed, who we recruit on and off the pitch. But the ones in charge keep making the same mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocksgloves1 View Post
    We need to get back to having a strong academy and bringing our own players through. Veteran last chance men have deflected us from this.
    I don't disagree with the sentiment but I'm struggling to remember when we've ever had a strong academy. We bring so few of our own players through and that's been the case for years, maybe even decades.
    Personally I think we would probably get a better return from strengthening our scouting network to cover non-league and overseas opportunities but that's probably a bit of a stretch for a club that doesn't seem to do much in the way of forward planning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowmiller View Post
    I don't disagree with the sentiment but I'm struggling to remember when we've ever had a strong academy. We bring so few of our own players through and that's been the case for years, maybe even decades.
    Personally I think we would probably get a better return from strengthening our scouting network to cover non-league and overseas opportunities but that's probably a bit of a stretch for a club that doesn't seem to do much in the way of forward planning.
    Bang on in all respects. Phenomenal teams we had in the past came from superb scouting... we were just a little outfit then, too.
    There are handfullofrice stars across the world just begging for a chance.
    But our infrastructure, in fact our whole imagination for future planning, is more myopic than Elton John...

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    There is no plan at this club,there never has been and never will be until we have new owners with positive ideas,ambition and funded to go forward.Not run on a year to year survival programme.There is no foundation to build on and we have had promise after promise that "we have learnt from the mistakes we have made" We've all had enough !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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