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    Doctors in England

    Watching BBC news this morning - three main stories.

    1. Patients in corridors with 'winter viruses' and of course a focus on how it's affecting children and those with existing conditions. One hospital in Sunderland has 36 people in hospital with flu related conditions (we know it's not flu but existing conditions which worsen even with a cold) and a huge 2 in ICU - again we know this is not with flu but other conditions and they have caught cold or flu.

    2. Early flu - that's early but not any worse than a typical year - and having to wear masks in hospitals to 'save the NHS', yes, they've dredged that nonsense up again. They've even had interviews with that ugly virologist guy that lied through his teeth during Covid. Also claimng vaccine stocks are running low one with breath then saying go and get a vaccine in the next.

    3. Junior doctors due to vote on industrial action / strike.

    I wonder just how co-incidental it really is that there's this massive focus on early flu and hospital queues with a strike vote due by doctors.

    Doctors vote to stay at work, this all disappears from the news. However doctors go on strike - *******s are putting the lives of children, elderly and immuno compromised at risk.

    They must think we're thick but then I'm pretty sure I said at the time that the Covid lock down was a social experiment. It clearly worked and enough people fell for it that they can now use similar tactics to influence the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Watching BBC news this morning - three main stories.

    1. Patients in corridors with 'winter viruses' and of course a focus on how it's affecting children and those with existing conditions. One hospital in Sunderland has 36 people in hospital with flu related conditions (we know it's not flu but existing conditions which worsen even with a cold) and a huge 2 in ICU - again we know this is not with flu but other conditions and they have caught cold or flu.

    2. Early flu - that's early but not any worse than a typical year - and having to wear masks in hospitals to 'save the NHS', yes, they've dredged that nonsense up again. They've even had interviews with that ugly virologist guy that lied through his teeth during Covid. Also claimng vaccine stocks are running low one with breath then saying go and get a vaccine in the next.

    3. Junior doctors due to vote on industrial action / strike.

    I wonder just how co-incidental it really is that there's this massive focus on early flu and hospital queues with a strike vote due by doctors.

    Doctors vote to stay at work, this all disappears from the news. However doctors go on strike - *******s are putting the lives of children, elderly and immuno compromised at risk.

    They must think we're thick but then I'm pretty sure I said at the time that the Covid lock down was a social experiment. It clearly worked and enough people fell for it that they can now use similar tactics to influence the population.
    Zero time for the blessed NHS.

    Individual people working in it fine.....like all big organisations, some will be guid, vast majority average and some dreadful.

    NHS isn't a marvel comics convention

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Zero time for the blessed NHS.

    Individual people working in it fine.....like all big organisations, some will be guid, vast majority average and some dreadful.

    NHS isn't a marvel comics convention
    But they're all heroes surely? MSM says so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    But they're all heroes surely? MSM says so.
    Still got super heroes sign on approach to ninewells from Menzieshill. 😆

    Never seen Batman locking down Gotham and cancelling a thing.

    Spidey's 6 th sense didnae tell him to do tik tok dance

    And I dinnae think Dr David Banner every falsified a death certificate.

    Just saying

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    Good article in the Mail today by Quentin Letts totally demolishing the case for masks and railing against lockdowns and the petty bureaucrats let loose during the pandemic. Masks are totally useless in stopping a virus which just passes freely through. It isn't even close, the possibility of stopping passage through. Read somewhere if the virus was the size of a table tennis ball the holes in the mask would each be twice the size of a football goal. No way I would voluntarily wear a mask but have to in order to get into the nursing home to visit my mother which I suppose I have to put up with. Saw couple of folk walking along the Esplanade in a half gale wearing silly little paper masks. Unbelievable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodbroon View Post
    Good article in the Mail today by Quentin Letts totally demolishing the case for masks and railing against lockdowns and the petty bureaucrats let loose during the pandemic. Masks are totally useless in stopping a virus which just passes freely through. It isn't even close, the possibility of stopping passage through. Read somewhere if the virus was the size of a table tennis ball the holes in the mask would each be twice the size of a football goal. No way I would voluntarily wear a mask but have to in order to get into the nursing home to visit my mother which I suppose I have to put up with. Saw couple of folk walking along the Esplanade in a half gale wearing silly little paper masks. Unbelievable!
    I just refuse to do it.

    It's just virtue signalling guff.

    No masks here that I've seen apart from the Chinese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    I just refuse to do it.

    It's just virtue signalling guff.

    No masks here that I've seen apart from the Chinese.
    I agree with Rross and Deeranged, to my surprise and disappointment.
    How the politicians in charge today can even begin to think that repeating the policies that were used for the covid19 pandemic is appropriate, is a major disappointment to me.
    Their covid enquiry highlighted massive sums of money lost and tremendous damage done to the welfare of school children.
    Surely they can't think that repeating the covid19 cure is appropriate?
    The NHS is supposed to save us and this time I am not banging pots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    I agree with Rross and Deeranged, to my surprise and disappointment.
    How the politicians in charge today can even begin to think that repeating the policies that were used for the covid19 pandemic is appropriate, is a major disappointment to me.
    Their covid enquiry highlighted massive sums of money lost and tremendous damage done to the welfare of school children.
    Surely they can't think that repeating the covid19 cure is appropriate?
    The NHS is supposed to save us and this time I am not banging pots.
    People were taken for mugs during Covid BCram and governments loved it. It showed they can exercise almost complete control simply by initiating panic.

    What they're doing right now with this flu isn't as extreme as was done during Covid but without a doubt it's about hiding the absolute mess that the NHS is in, a mess of government and the NHS' own making, if the doctors do go on strike down south that mess will be completely exposed but at least they can blame the doctors. Turning the people within the NHS into heroes whilst setting up to blame these heroes when it all collapses round their arses is, quite frankly, disgraceful. But most people buy into this sh1t.

    There's no shame in agreeing with me and RRoS by the way.

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    Disappointed to be agreeing with you both, because I argued that the next pandemic would not be treated in the same way because of the lessons learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    I agree with Rross and Deeranged, to my surprise and disappointment.
    How the politicians in charge today can even begin to think that repeating the policies that were used for the covid19 pandemic is appropriate, is a major disappointment to me.
    Their covid enquiry highlighted massive sums of money lost and tremendous damage done to the welfare of school children.
    Surely they can't think that repeating the covid19 cure is appropriate?
    The NHS is supposed to save us and this time I am not banging pots.
    Broken record ( non attending ) DSC.

    The point of the COVID enquiry is to justify what they did.....not reprimand themselves.

    The only reprimand is for not doing it faster, longer, harder.

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